The Kibbutz settlements existed nearly four decades prior to the state of Israel
And Theodor Herzl died in 1904. What's your point? The Zionist project is a multi decade colonial effort. It doesn't just pop up with the Declaration of Establishment. The first Zionist Congress was in 1897. Left-Zionism is an oxymoron and there's no way around it.
How can you justify anarchist cells in a nationalist project? That's 🤡
How can you justify anarchist cells in a nationalist project?
Unless I'm confused, I don't see how one could not justify anarchist cells in a nationalist project. Are we also supposed to be against EZLN because they're an anarchist cell in a nationalist state?
The Zapatistas themselves reject the Anarchist characterization.
@Genghis_Kon Called Kibbutzim Left-Zionist anarchist cells. Zionism is a nationalist movement and it's my understanding that that is antithetical to anarchism. In contrast to the EZLN kibbutzim do not struggle against the Zionist state but are well established and interwoven into a Zionist society.
Kibbutzim today are glorified gated communities. I don't know why you think they are relevant in any way.
Edit: Furthermore you'll have a tough time convincing an Arab like me to take the claim seriously that a group of Europeans who move to a british colony in the Arab world to set up their own society separate from the indigenous population is socialist, anarchist or leftist in anyway.
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And Theodor Herzl died in 1904. What's your point? The Zionist project is a multi decade colonial effort. It doesn't just pop up with the Declaration of Establishment. The first Zionist Congress was in 1897. Left-Zionism is an oxymoron and there's no way around it.
How can you justify anarchist cells in a nationalist project? That's 🤡
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My contention to that would be that there is no modern Kibbutz movement.
Their actions don't seem to support that thesis. If it were so I would expect them to be anti-zionist which they clearly are not.
Unless I'm confused, I don't see how one could not justify anarchist cells in a nationalist project. Are we also supposed to be against EZLN because they're an anarchist cell in a nationalist state?
The Zapatistas themselves reject the Anarchist characterization.
@Genghis_Kon Called Kibbutzim Left-Zionist anarchist cells. Zionism is a nationalist movement and it's my understanding that that is antithetical to anarchism. In contrast to the EZLN kibbutzim do not struggle against the Zionist state but are well established and interwoven into a Zionist society.
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Kibbutzim today are glorified gated communities. I don't know why you think they are relevant in any way.
Edit: Furthermore you'll have a tough time convincing an Arab like me to take the claim seriously that a group of Europeans who move to a british colony in the Arab world to set up their own society separate from the indigenous population is socialist, anarchist or leftist in anyway.