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This 'struggle session' has cut open a sore of cisnormativity which allows plausible deniability of transphobic action and thought. It's senseless and insensitive to push back against what should be a non-issue. Cis and trans alike, set your pronouns so as to normalize an aspect of trans inclusion that goes some way to dispel cishet patriarchal norms assumed default by almost every space, especially online.

There is no excuse (that hasn't been considered and discussed and where applicable, taken on board) to push back against this as we as a community have. We can (and should) do better.

  • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
    6·
    4 years ago

    they aint callin flairless people TERFs they are calling TERFs TERFs

    like we specifically have pronoun options FOR people who dont wanna set their pronouns

    if what you want AINT there just tell us about it, its that easy.

    • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
      15·
      4 years ago

      What fucking terfs follow to chapo.chat? This community is about the most trans positive space you can find on the internet and the only thing that has made it not that is this weird militant struggle session over imposing pronoun flairs on users that were in no way discriminating to begin with.

      • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
        3·
        4 years ago

        /u/bread_in_baltimore while a good comrade most of the time is VERY terfy rn

        we have banned a ton of people dawg, just cuz you dont seem doesnt mean we dont

          • the_river_cass [she/her]
            4·
            4 years ago

            "radical social values" is just reactionary. also, mocking pronouns is... yeah...

        • 90u9y8gb9t86vytv97g [they/them]
          6·
          4 years ago

          I have been trying not to spend more than 10 minutes in any of these huge struggle session threads, so you're probably right they dredge up especially terfy users and trolls.

          My experience from using this site for the past three months though in hundreds of threads is that it is a firmly trans supportive community and this pronoun requirement is an unnecessary announcement that only really weirds out new users that didn't sign up to be yelled at over nothing.

          • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
            2·
            4 years ago

            Its not really required, otherwise it could literally just be forced on the back end, but it is recommended. If someone doesnt want to flair up for identity reasons literally ZERO people on the mod team have issues with that but if someone just wants to say "muh anonymity" they can get bent cuz we literally have flairs specifically for that

            The idea was if EVERYONE flairs up itd make those who dont feel pressured to do so as well (not in a bad way)

              • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
                2·
                4 years ago

                idk why people wanna be misgendered anyways dude. I flaired up as soon as I could. even as a relatively cis person (well enby that still uses he/him) i find misgender situations kinda awkward.

                not like its hard, and there are options for those who dont wanna share. its literally five clicks

              • Redcloak [none/use name]
                8·
                4 years ago

                More than a few trans people have told you that they feel like you are trying to force them to out themselves. At least one of those people have repeated their concerns in this very thread. Rather than be sensitive to these concerns, you are erasing their opinions and experiences.

                  • Redcloak [none/use name]
                    8·
                    4 years ago

                    Literally everyone agrees with this.

                    Erasure in action, with not even a hint of remorse or self-reflection. Gleeful in its erasure, in fact, positively giddy about it.

                    • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
                      1·
                      4 years ago

                      wtf does this even mean dude

                      show some evidence of ANYONE trying to force pronouns (at least anyone who represents the site)

                      actually YOU CANT cuz youre BANNED SON