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Democrats aren't attacking Jill Stein because they think she is taking votes from Kamala Harris. No one I know who's voting Green would consider a vote for Harris at this point. They're attacking Jill Stein because they don't want voters to know that there can be a worker-centered party to the left of the Democrats that supports popular policies like Medicare for All, a $25 wage and federally guaranteed housing.

There are 80+ million eligible voters who don't vote at all because they don't see the point. Democrats are okay with this, in fact, they don't want any candidate to their left to appeal to those voters with popular policies.

The fact that the Green Party exists shows that the Democrats aren't pushing the most progressive policies. Jill Stein's candidacy shows that it's possible to support reproductive justice AND be against funding and arming a genocide. That we can end homelessness if we stopped funding endless wars around the globe.

Democrats don't want anyone to the left of them to exist because it's the only way they can convince Americans that Dem policies are "the best that we can do". To Dems, anything else is just "asking for a pony".

Don't fall for it. Despite Dem's desire to have you think otherwise, things don't have to be this way.

Another world is possible.

            • Rom [he/him]
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              1 month ago

              Ok, sure. Here's the second paragraph:

              Between the war's start last October and recent days, the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs, 6,500 500-pound bombs, 3,000 Hellfire precision-guided air-to-ground missiles, 1,000 bunker-buster bombs, 2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs, and other munitions, according to the officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

              Question for you, who has been the president of the US since October 7, 2023?

                • Rom [he/him]
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                  1 month ago

                  How does enabling genocide prevent world war, exactly? Spell that one out for me, because to my knowledge the previous World War was started by a state who was doing a genocide.

                    • Rom [he/him]
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                      1 month ago

                      I'm well aware of the history of Israel, thanks. Can you explain how the US's arming Israel for the last 76 years makes it okay for them to continue doing so? It was wrong then, so why isn't it wrong now?

                      You can be opposed to Israel's excessive use of force while still supporting the Biden administration's actions

                      No you cannot, because Biden (and the United States broadly, as you've been so keen to point out) is the one enabling their excessive use of force.

                      What we do know is that Iran is an active threat to the United States and other countries and, without Israel as an ally, the world would be under grave threat of international war.

                      One country in the region is openly murdering women and children, and it isn't Iran.

                      You are complicit in genocide.

                    • GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml
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                      29 days ago

                      preventing global terrorism

                      You're a miserable chauvinist and your college course would be crap. Israel is a rogue terrorist state that exists for the purpose of terrorizing its neighbors and therefore hindering development and destabilizing the Middle East

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZs-v0PR44

                      You can be opposed to Israel’s excessive use of force while still supporting the Biden administration’s actions.

                      Israel is a settler-colonial state, all of its forces is excessive and it as a state should not exist. Anyone supporting Biden's actions is supporting settler-colonialism and terrorism.

                    • coolusername@lemmy.ml
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                      29 days ago

                      What we do know is that Iran is an active threat to the United States and other countries and, without Israel as an ally, the world would be under grave threat of international war.

                      hahhahahahahahahaha
                      US and Israel are the ones funding terrorism globally. ISIS-K in Russia, White Helmets in Syria, ETIM in China (not anymore they lost), ISIS in African countries that "we" don't like (Niger, Burkina Faso, and others), and unfortunately there's a lot more examples

        • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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          29 days ago

          Trump openly

          This is the real problem that libs have with trump. He represents and fulfills all of their ideals, but without the pompadour.

        • Rom [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          To defend democracy

          jagoff

          the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state

          And by negotiate you mean unconditionally arm their genocide?

          Trump doesn't give a shit about anyone in the region and has fully supported Netanyahu's genocide

          Again, the weapons Israel is using for their genocide were sent to them by Biden, not Trump. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-sent-israel-thousands-2000-pound-bombs-since-oct-7-2024-06-28/

          The current conflict is largely due to Trump's actions as president and Biden's inaction as president

          Once again, Biden is actively arming this genocide. That doesn't sound like inaction to me.

          • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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            30 days ago

            the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state

            This all checks out, because we all know that famous Bush quote, "We absolutely totally negotiate with terrorists"

            • Rom [he/him]
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              1 month ago

              Imagine what would have happened if Biden / Congress didn't continue military contracts

              Show

              Had you been paying attention to the actual news, you would know that the US has been arming Israel for decades

              Okay, and? Israel has been a genocidal colonizer state since its inception. Every previous president who armed them is a war criminal, too.

              This is the most complicated international conflict in our lifetime

              It really isn't. Israel is a genocidal settler state living on stolen land. They should be abolished and the land returned to Palestine, its rightful owners. What part of this are you struggling with?

              Not because the US supports genocide but because the US supports the destruction of terrorism in the region.

              Oh fuck off. You said yourself they only care about Israel because of its position in the region. They don't give a shit about terrorism, they've been actively funding terrorists and destabilizing the region for decades. It's never been about democracy or fighting terror and you are incredibly naive if you still believe this. It's only ever been about extracting as much oil from the region as possible as cheaply as possible.

              You are choosing the person who is literally saying he wants to destroy Palestine over the person who is "actively arming this genocide"

              Excuse me? I'm not choosing shit. Please link to me exactly where I said I was going to vote for Trump. I have never once expressed any interest in voting for him, not in 2016, nor 2020, nor today. No, refusing to vote for Harris is not, in fact, a vote for Trump. That's not how voting works and you are a literal baby if you think not voting for a specific candidate is inherently a vote for another.

              Biden and Blinken are still trying to get a ceasefire and support for a two state solution

              They have never been serious about a ceasefire. Biden is still sending Israel all the weapons they need to carry out their extermination campaign. If he was even the smallest bit serious about enforcing a ceasefire he would stop sending them weapons to fire.

                • Rom [he/him]
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                  1 month ago

                  I very much agree with this.

                  No you don't, because you're still up and down this thread bootlicking for Biden and Harris, who are as vocally pro-Israel as anyone can possibly be.

                  Iran.

                  Is Iran compelling Israel to commit genocide against Palestine? Are they compelling the US to arm this genocide? What the fuck does this even mean?

                • Rom [he/him]
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                  1 month ago

                  A third party vote is the same as not voting.

                  Oh my god just shut the fuck up already.

                  If that's the case, Trump has informed us that he intends to destroy the region by permitting Netanyahu to eliminate the Palestinians

                  Harris has promised the exact same thing by promising unwavering support to Israel, just in politer terms that are more palatable to scratched liberals like you.

                  By not voting for the viable candidate that most aligns with your philosophies, you are increasing the risk of the other candidate's victory.

                  The Democrats are not entitled to my vote, nor were they ever entitled to it just because they're Not Trump. Fuck you, genocide enabler.

                  PIGPOOPBALLS

            • Wakmrow [he/him]
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              1 month ago

              Oh well if they're trying real hard to get a ceasefire I guess they're just weak and incompetent. In which case why would I support them.

        • Wakmrow [he/him]
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          1 month ago

          Tell me more about how elections work you seem to really understand democracy