Original post here: https://hexbear.net/post/3856299?scrollToComments=false

I think we have a general path forward based on community feedback. "We see you, we hear you!"

I went ahead and unpinned the old post. I'm pinning this one for now and will edit this post when I wake up from eepy time. I had a very mid week and have no particular alarm set so be on look out. Love y'all and I'm amped for my first announcement post since coming back. :)

  • ChicagoCommunist [none/use name]
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    17 days ago

    Sure, but I'd hope the amount of work they've put in has earned them some degree of good-faith interpretation. It's difficult to put concepts into words, especially in the heat of the moment, so sometimes using a "vibe" as a shorthand signifier has to do.

    Not to mention this debate has been ongoing for months or years, in various forms, so every statement has a depth of potential implications and contexts that aren't gonna be obvious to everyone.

    "Cishet white guy behavior" is perfectly understandable to me as shorthand for the in-group/out-group superiority/inferiority complex that's plagued this site since the beginning, but I've been here continuously from the beginning. It's a poor signifier for users who haven't been here the whole time (whether new users or old users that left for a while) or even people with a different perspective/experience of the site.

    • heggs_bayer [none/use name]
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      17 days ago

      "Cishet white guy behavior" is perfectly understandable to me as shorthand for the in-group/out-group superiority/inferiority complex that's plagued this site since the beginning, but I've been here continuously from the beginning. It's a poor signifier for users who haven't been here the whole time (whether new users or old users that left for a while) or even people with a different perspective/experience of the site.

      I'll defer to you on this since I haven't been around close to as long and am not marginalized. A big issue I saw was that a lot of marginalized people caught strays for enjoying "cishet white guy behavior" and made it known that they saw it as invalidating.

      • ChicagoCommunist [none/use name]
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        17 days ago

        Yeah that's a perfectly valid critique. There's an important concept behind the signifier, but there are better signifiers that can be used to communicate it.