Hexbear's new head of operations just dropped, and their way of dealing with the fallout of their last struggle session is to hand bans out like candy to their concerned and disillusioned users while throwing out "epic" quips like insecure teenagers along the way coupled with their communication (and seemingly contempt) towards their own userbase which isn't helping their allegations at all and the revelations that were learned about Hexbear's moderators and admins from their most recent struggle session.

The last few days have honestly shaken my faith in Hexbear and their team and I hope the mods and admins at Lemmygrad are monitoring the situation closely.

  • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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    16 days ago

    I feel like this is exactly the irony poisoned toxic attitude that has led to this getting so bad :/

    I wasn't around during the early days, heard lots of good things about TC69, purging transphobe wreckers and making people read is based :3

    But is kinda wild and not a good look that she showed up again one day, the biggest struggle sesh I have ever seen kicks off, Carcosa steps down, half-steps back up, then while they're on break probably cuz of this whole stressful ordeal on this site they steward for us, she becomes head admin(?) again and immediately she and many of the new admins get so deeply involved in an obviously bad-faith way in this struggle sesh to the point of like 20 or 30 people getting bans where even the Lemmygradians are noticing that the site is exploding lol but ohhh this is all a joke ofc :) but it's also not a joke and this site needs to get serious and we need more mega-purges but also reply here and I'll use an RNG to decide how long to ban you, and also other random people with the same reason in the modlog

    Now idk anymore, maybe this is what TC69-thought is

    • Gribbli@lemmygrad.ml
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      16 days ago

      My main takeaway was that I still find pervasive irony just...so...tiring. My main concern was with the misgendering of people and weird accusations. People were upset, and I was concerned. I feel like I missed the humor (which isn't unlikely I suppose, I miss jokes all the time) when all these bits started to pop off. Just felt mocked for caring by the people who were supposedly famous for caring for their comrades. This is why we reject irony and embrace sincerity

      • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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        16 days ago

        I feel exactly the same way tbh, I can go to a trillion other sites if I wanna do endless smuglord "actually, it's kinda cringe that you care tbh" bits that also aren't a bit where "you win" if you can pretend to be the most cool and detached i'm-not-online-i'm-just-here-to-observe-the-onlineness type person (I am also missing the joke here), I like Hexbear cuz of the sincerity

        The misgendering ableist wrecker alts were rly exhausting tbh, especially when it seems like it's someone here doing it who has been banned for the same shit before multiple times but is still allowed to do it (as of now, I'm not in the admin chats so ofc idk for sure)

        • Karma_404 [he/him]
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          16 days ago

          An admin has confirmed it wasn't the one who we all assumed

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        16 days ago

        Ironically it was the attempt to tamp down the irony poisoning that actually led to this whole shitshow in the first place.

        Admins fucked up TC69 fucked up especially, but the userbase also failed itself by deliberately misreading a good faith attempt to address how toxic some of the site culture has always been and how rising cynicism had made it worse.

        I will say this though if I hadn't stepped down as an admin a while a go I would have either made things much worse or just purged a shitload of people and let the appeals sort it out.

        • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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          16 days ago

          deliberately misreading a good faith attempt to address how toxic some of the site culture has always been and how rising cynicism had made it worse.

          The way I see it, it was more that there weren't really any attempts made at explaining what the last part of this sentence actually means. Plenty of people did sincerely ask for clarification, and got basically nothing beyond "this is bad because we've decided it's bad" or "go look at the modlog".

          And when you say that things have actually gotten worse, I genuinely do not understand that because I don't share that impression. It's perfectly possible that I should, but it would have to actually be explained to me why.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            16 days ago

            Well I am not an admin anymore but from the CTH modlog alone I see a lot that most people don't unless you obsess over the modlog.

            I agree that the communication on part of the admins wasn't great for sure. My main point was that everyone kinda failed eachother here outside a few stalwart persons that helped reign it all in.

        • Gribbli@lemmygrad.ml
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          16 days ago

          Appreciate the honesty Nako. Wouldn't have expected you to fly off the handle but you know you better than I do. The whole thing is really just kinda silly and very regrettable.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            16 days ago

            The whole thing is really just kinda silly and very regrettable.

            Understatement of the year lol

        • Karma_404 [he/him]
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          16 days ago

          Yeah most are pointing at the failure of admin and mods but feel like the wild speculation and bad-faith interpretation of every response from admins contributed in the struggle spiraling out of control.

          Then there was someone (perhaps arouge mod)? making alts and harassing users that was adding fule to fire. The ban-bit which might have been intended to release some pressure got a mini-blowback.