Please stop listening to rich kids.

Especially ones using fascist hashtags. https://t.co/mL53popBr4?amp=1

https://medium.com/@TalibKweli/why-ados-is-trash-receipts-attached-5a337f46f10

And working with Trump staffers.

https://imgur.com/a/lVxZ3ye

Who are also connected to said fascist hashtags.

These people are not leftists. They arent your friends.

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Here is a contra mod calling BJG and her podcast rich kid fascism. Which is hilariously ironic.. considering contra is that.

  • nohaybanda [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Wait, y'all are actually serious about this whole reading theory stuff? :cat-confused:

    • s_p_l_o_d_e [they/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Wait, y'all are actually serious about this whole watching youtube videos for theory stuff?

      real talk though, I strongly recommend reading theory/history rather than just watching youtube video essays or listening to podcasts.

      Obviously reading theory includes audiobooks, but having the text and being able to go about it at your own pace rather than being passively getting pushed along by someone else is still better for comprehension.

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I definitely agree. My comment was meant more as a snarky reminder that the chapo collective is a whole lot more diverse in our journeys towards radical politics than people here seem to think. Demanding people cancel this or that breadtuber, or denouncing content creation (i.e. Propaganda) as not praxis is just... Kind of divorced from reality. Demanding ideological purity from fellow party members makes perfect sense. Getting shitty at strangers on the Internet, even when we call each other comrade?

        • s_p_l_o_d_e [they/them,he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Absolutely, hence why I changed it from "stop watching" to "stop relying on" as the other user suggested. Basically, yes, breadtube can be useful for getting people informed, but i think the hyperfocus on the drama surrounding them and being surprised when people leftists were relying on to be on the same level as the authors of theory, who were (often but not always) involved agitators and revolutionaries or organizers, disappoint them by being self-serving youtubers trying to massage an algorithm that relies on human labor to function (and thus benefit them) and not doing much beyond relying on said algorithm to get a platform to say things.

          Like, cool if lefttube got you into leftist ideas and politics and actions, but to treat them as if they're infallible and then get upset when they're dumb is a waste of time imo.

          • nohaybanda [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Good point, but I'm not really seeing anyone on here arguing breadtubers are infallible. From where I'm standing it's mostly just chapos grandstanding about who's the only leftists around here. Which is cool as a running joke, and not so much when it turns into gatekeeping.

            For the record, I don't follow breadtube beyond the videos, or what few of them grab my attention. I don't do twitter, and don't care about relationships, spats, infighting etc. I see them and the podcasters as general leftist propaganda. Some good, some bad, a lot of it dubiously effective. That's it. I don't know where y'all are getting the idea anyone around here is confusing this with organising a revolution.