• Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    So then it should be esablished that white homeless people in settler colonial countries by themselves have no power. But the settler state uses their existence as a way to legitimise its own power. These aren't quite the same thing, which is what I thought your original comment was conflating.

    • ap1 [any,undecided]
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      4 years ago

      The original comment includes any non land owner - eg renter and was suggesting ownership is all that is needed to be a coloniser

      Can you really colonize if you don’t own land tho? Seems more like squatting than anything

      Colonial forces are obviously much more than land ownership, it's an oppressive structure ingrained in society like racism, patriarchy, cisheteronormativity, etc. You passively contribute to it if you are part of the oppressor class.

      A homeless man can still contribute to the patriarchy, settler colonialism, cisheteronormativity, etc

      • Classic_Agency [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        A homeless man can still contribute to the patriarchy, settler colonialism, cisheteronormativity, etc

        Upon further reflection I agree but I think we should not be pointing to homeless and poor people as the oppressors in society. Your contribution to these systems is determined by the amount of power you have, and the bourgeosie and the state make way bigger contributions and attacking them will be way more effective than attacking disenfranchised people.

        I guess I have just seen too much of 'white privelage' being used to attack poor white people.

        • ap1 [any,undecided]
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          4 years ago

          yeah definitely its really not worth bringing up normally unless you are having a nuanced discussion on /why/ homeless people are settlers - i.e. being the powerless underclass settlers for powerful capitalist colonisers

          I was really trying to address the whack take on land ownership, homeless people being the extreme end of this. the original comment incorrectly conflates land ownership and being a settler