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  • Sunn_Owns [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Yes, but it could be editors didn't want to publish those pieces. The Hunter Biden corruption story is interesting because it's not an indictment on just Hunter but the entire political class and many journalists who run in the same circles.

    Pay for access is common in capitalism. Journalists write fawningly to maintain access to sources.

    We've known for years that Biden and his family are corrupt, but it's run of the mill corruption. I see this as an attempt by the Intercept to narrow debate on criticism of Dems more narrowly to try and attract more investors/a more lib audience. My lib siblings went from liking Feinstein to hating her. There's a shift in libs willingness to be adversarial to elected Dems, but it only goes so far. The Intercept wants to cash in on this moment.

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah this argument makes sense, that the moment has shifted away from we need to burn this party down because the base will never be with us (for succdems) vs liberals are sick of the democrats being useless.

      But I still struggle to fully believe that there is meaningful censorship there to protect Biden, many of their staff was talking about the story on social media, if this was purely about censorship you'd be seeing other staff publicly leaving today too and we haven't. Greenwald likely had an exit strategy in the making for some time and he blew up the whole thing in order to regain lost credibility with the whistle blower community after he lost a ton of it from the reality winner story.

      The intercept is never going to truly be accepted in the mainstream of the democratic party, so they gain absolutely nothing by protecting Biden.

      • Juche_tought [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        the dems are very short sighted and there is huge taboo around calling the liberal establishemt out in the journalist space

        • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah but the intercept has already done that lol. Ryan Grimm is already totally unacceptable to the DNC establishment let alone Greenwald, and Grimm is like a totally mainline working families party type dem.

          • Juche_tought [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            its not like i read articles it seems like im missing something. but i still think that theres something about ideology going on other than just personal beef with some lib editors and journalissts

            Also i have ahuge soft spot for glenn even if he has had some lib takes in the past hes a openly gay and i think an influental journalist in brazil

            • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I'm not disagreeing with this, there's definitely something ideological related. But I think that goes much deeper than just this single article, from the basis of this single article alone you can't establish an ideological pattern.

              My guess is that Glenn just wants to see the democratic party burn to the ground, his connection to politics is much more viceral and life or death than it is for the rest of these folks. The other folks don't have this pressing desire to make that happen and so they'll dance around issues of journalistic integrity to slow his role and he doesn't like that.

              The Obama administration treated him and Snowden like shit, he obviously hates Biden for some of that. Countless DNC operatives were posting about how they hoped he'd rot in a Brazilian prison. His strong defense of Russia likely has some relation to Snowden rather than just being pure anti jingoism as he doesn't speak nearly as strongly about American intervention towards China, ect.

              I also have a huge soft spot for him, the Snowden stuff was a big part of my political awakening, and I love how he's a catty bitch online haha. It's also worth pointing out he still says intercept brazil is good.

              • Juche_tought [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                its too long for me to read drunk but it seems like he got really shafted by the other editors that had their own ideology shaping the platform and hes fucking pissed off about it

                • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  I think it's more that he has his own ideology and his editors don't really care, they care about maintaining the journalistic integrity of the paper. There's nothing in their emails that comes across as blatently ideological, but his response certainly was.