It's going to open the fucking floodgates for app-based everything, the amount of money these companies will be able to save with no payroll taxes is crazy, and the drivers will be paying for them because they're independent contractors. People are just so sold on "being your own boss" = freedom = good, it's like jumping off a cliff and thinking you aren't constrained by gravity.
One small step for Uber, Lyft, and Postmates, one giant leap in the race to the bottom!
Ok but i just had a weird thought. So like since most people doing these deliveries actually have possesion of their means of production, what if everything appified. Then everyone just said like, no we are gonna keep driving people around with the new open source version of the app where we keep all our surplus value. Like start up an uber or lyft as a co-op, might be viable if enough drivers jump ship to it.
uber will never, ever, let that slide. if they spent 200 million to ensure they dont have to give healthcare to their workers, theyll spend as much to ensure anyone who tries to compete with them is unable to do so.
Thats fine and good but this is more of an allat once sort of thing. Yeah building it from scratch is nearly impossible, all the contractors moving to a different platform at once is a different scenario. One that would only be feasible by organizing ind contractors(good luck)
I don't see how you keep prices competitive as a co-op when Uber is artificially deflating the market as a direct result of massive VC cash reserves. Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea that I whole heartedly support -- and a necessary one too -- however I think you'd need to be close to price parity and the only reason Uber can achieve that is through really low independent contractor wages.
It's going to open the fucking floodgates for app-based everything, the amount of money these companies will be able to save with no payroll taxes is crazy, and the drivers will be paying for them because they're independent contractors. People are just so sold on "being your own boss" = freedom = good, it's like jumping off a cliff and thinking you aren't constrained by gravity.
One small step for Uber, Lyft, and Postmates, one giant leap in the race to the bottom!
Ok but i just had a weird thought. So like since most people doing these deliveries actually have possesion of their means of production, what if everything appified. Then everyone just said like, no we are gonna keep driving people around with the new open source version of the app where we keep all our surplus value. Like start up an uber or lyft as a co-op, might be viable if enough drivers jump ship to it.
uber will never, ever, let that slide. if they spent 200 million to ensure they dont have to give healthcare to their workers, theyll spend as much to ensure anyone who tries to compete with them is unable to do so.
Thats fine and good but this is more of an allat once sort of thing. Yeah building it from scratch is nearly impossible, all the contractors moving to a different platform at once is a different scenario. One that would only be feasible by organizing ind contractors(good luck)
Neat idea, thanks for giving me some hope.
I don't see how you keep prices competitive as a co-op when Uber is artificially deflating the market as a direct result of massive VC cash reserves. Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea that I whole heartedly support -- and a necessary one too -- however I think you'd need to be close to price parity and the only reason Uber can achieve that is through really low independent contractor wages.