• Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Democrats are obviously using this one to try and get out the vote, and Trump would absolutely be removed if he lost

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      If he gets blown out he either wouldn't try this or would just be escorted out.

      If it's a close election he can contest it via either the Bush 2000 strategy (disrupt recount efforts and throw it to a friendly Supreme Court) or through calling into question the legitimacy of the results (as he was doing even before November 2016, and he's basically done ever since). There's no question that his base would back him on this. Can you confidently say the Republican Party wouldn't back him up on that? Can you confidently say the fascist goons that have already cracked skulls for him once in Washington would just turn around and say, "Sorry, Mr. President, your fired"?

      • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I guess I can't say anything with certainty. But I don't think that corporations would necessarily back him in that power struggle

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Why wouldn't they? The real power players are making money even though the economy is falling apart for ordinary people. If you're the military-industrial complex you like the fact that he's always a bad week away from starting a war. He'll sign off on whatever corporate handouts the GOP puts in front of him. He'll pick pro-business judges. He'll be a punching bag for libs so they never focus their anger too intensely on capitalism.

          You could argue that they might slightly prefer a pro-business Democrat who's more stable, but I think it's splitting hairs at that point, and I find it hard to believe they'd do anything meaningful to oppose Trump at that point.

        • the_river_cass [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          he's got the backing of a huge segment of the bourgeoisie. who do you think his donors are?

      • KiaKaha [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        If it’s close and they can swing it like Bush v Gore, sure.

        But anything more than that, I don’t think so. They benefit from having a two party system too much.

        If they were going down this route, I’d expect a whole lot more jailing of the political opposition, for instance. Beating up protesters is, after all, a bipartisan sport.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          If they were going down this route, I’d expect a whole lot more jailing of the political opposition, for instance.

          Bear in mind that there's almost three months between the election and inauguration. No reason to start jailing political opponents now when there's a decent chance you'll win outright, win through sufficient voter suppression, or win through some Bush v. Gore bullshit.

    • the_river_cass [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      in the middle of an debt crisis that the state has failed to respond to, Trump will be responsible for annihilating the republic. yes, he would be removed from power eventually. but the schism in the ruling class while the lower classes are burning down cities would be a death-knell. in truth, the schism is already there but to paint it in such clear relief... we'd immediately have a civil war on our hands as numerous states backed the president, the military moved to remove him, and the other states backed the elected president.

      liberals, stupid as they are, desperate to preserve the government might actually just concede to Trump in order to prevent this. it's an utterly galaxy-brained move but I'm not putting it past this democratic party.

    • Penndragon [he/him,des/pair]
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      4 years ago

      The counter to this is as simple as pointing this out then asking "What exactly do you think Trump is going to do different if Biden wins?"