• EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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              Ok, I found the full transcript:

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              Many people want to know why, out of the entire white segment of society, we want to criticize the liberals. We have to criticize them because they represent the liaison between other groups, between the oppressed and the oppressor. The liberal tries to become an arbitrator, but he is incapable of solving the problems. He promises the oppressor that he can keep the oppressed under control; that he will stop them from becoming illegal (in this case illegal means violent). At the same time, he promises the oppressed that he will be able to alleviate their suffering—in due time. Historically, of course, we know this is impossible, and our era will not escape history.

              The most perturbing question for the liberal is the question of violence. The liberal’s initial reaction to violence is to try to convince the oppressed that violence is an incorrect tactic, that violence will not work, that violence never accomplishes anything. The Europeans took America through violence and through violence they established the most powerful country in the world. Through violence they maintain the most powerful country in the world. It is absolutely absurd for one to say that violence never accomplishes anything.

              Today power is defined by the amount of violence one can bring against one’s enemy—that is how you decide how powerful a country is; power is defined not by the number of people living in a country, it is not based on the amount of resources to be found in that country, it is not based upon the good will of the leaders or the majority of that people. When one talks about a powerful country, one is talking precisely about the amount of violence that that country can heap upon its enemy. We must be clear in our minds about that. Russia is a powerful country, not because there are so many millions of Russians but because Russia has great atomic strength, great atomic power, which of course is violence. America can unleash an infinite amount of violence, and that is the only way one considers America powerful. No one considers Vietnam powerful, because Vietnam cannot unleash the same amount of violence. Yet if one wanted to define power as the ability to do, it seems to me that Vietnam is much more powerful than the United States. But because we have been conditioned by Western thoughts today to equate power with violence, we tend to do that at all times, except when the oppressed begin to equate power with violence—then it becomes an “incorrect” equation.

              Most societies in the West are not opposed to violence. The oppressor is only opposed to violence when the oppressed talk about using violence against the oppressor. Then the question of violence is raised as the incorrect means to attain one’s ends. Witness, for example, that Britain, France, and the United States have time and time again armed black people to fight their enemies for them. France armed Senegalese in World War II, Britain of course armed Africa and the West Indies, and the United States always armed the Africans living in the United States. But that is only to fight against their enemy, and the question of violence is never raised. The only time the United States or England or France will become concerned about the question of violence is when the people whom they armed to kill their enemies will pick up those arms against them. For example, practically every country in the West today is giving guns either to Nigeria or to Biafra. They do not mind giving those guns to those people as long as they use them to kill each other, but they will never give them guns to kill another white man or to fight another white country.

              The way the oppressor tries to stop the oppressed from using violence as a means to attain liberation is to raise ethical or moral questions about violence. I want to state emphatically here that violence in any society is neither moral nor is it ethical. It is neither right nor is it wrong. It is just simply a question of who has the power to legalize violence.

              It is not a question of whether it is right to kill or it is wrong to kill; killing goes on. Let me give an example. If I were in Vietnam, if I killed thirty yellow people who were pointed out to me by white Americans as my enemy, I would be given a medal. I would become a hero. I would have killed America’s enemy—but America’s enemy is not my enemy. If I were to kill thirty white policemen in Washington, D.C. who have been brutalizing my people and who are my enemy, I would get the electric chair. It is simply a question of who has the power to legalize violence. In Vietnam our violence is legalized by white America. In Washington, D.C., my violence is not legalized, because Africans living in Washington, D.C., do not have the power to legalize their violence.

              I used that example only to point out that the oppressor never really puts an ethical or moral judgment on violence, except when the oppressed picks up guns against the oppressor. For the oppressor, violence is simply the expedient thing to do.

              Is it not violent for a child to go to bed hungry in the richest country in the world? I think that is violent. But that type of violence is so institutionalized that it becomes a part of our way of life. Not only do we accept poverty, we even find it normal. And that again is because the oppressor makes his violence a part of the functioning society. But the violence of the oppressed becomes disruptive. It is disruptive to the ruling circles of a given society. And because it is disruptive it is therefore very easy to recognize, and therefore it becomes the target of all those who in fact do not want to change the society. What we want to do for our people, the oppressed, is to begin to legitimize violence in their minds. So that for us violence against the oppressor will be expedient. This is very important, because we have all been brainwashed into accepting questions of moral judgment when violence is used against the oppressor.

              If I kill in Vietnam I am allowed to go free; it has been legalized for me. It has not been legitimatized in my mind. I must legitimatize it in my own mind, and even though it is legal I may never legitimatize it in my own mind. There are a lot of people who came back from Vietnam, who have killed where killing was legalized, but who still have psychological problems over the fact that they have killed. We must understand, however, that to legitimatize killing in one’s mind does not make it legal. For example, I have completely legitimatized in my mind the killing of white policemen who terrorize black communities. However, if I get caught killing a white policeman, I have to go to jail, because I do not as yet have the power to legalize that type of killing. The oppressed must begin to legitimatize that type of violence in the minds of our people, even though it is illegal at this time, and we have to keep striving every chance we get to attain that end.

  • companero [he/him]
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    I went out of my way find this post to read the comments.

    These people would have unironically told us to leave Hitler alone in the 1940s.

    Absolute gem.

    • Comrade_Crab [any]
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      Because neoliberalism is a death cult. For them, human lives and well-being have never been part of the equation.

    • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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      Tbh, that's probably how most people react when they see Stalin memes.

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        But the difference is they're wrong.

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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        Maybe, but glorifying a historical figure and the violence he oversaw against Nazis and oppressor classes is a little different from glorifying the act of dropping bombs on people in poor countries.

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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        So it was seeded by a fossil fuel industry-funded corporate think tank?

        It's is actually starting to make sense now. I could never understand how people could just organically become cheerleaders for the shittiest, most soul-crushing status quo politics on Earth.

        Although how does this take into account the fact that the top mod is a weird weeb anarchist pedophile? I think they said they started it as a joke. Could it have been a bit that then got astroturfed into being unironic by PPI?

        • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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          Although how does this take into account the fact that the top mod is a weird weeb anarchist pedophile?

          Vaush?

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          The screenshot where they say "are now part of the PPI" implies that at some point they weren't and were just freelance shithead's. Could have been that it was a joke, then a PPI nerd came in, got modded, and took over.

        • Koa_lala [he/him]
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          Not really, they just really hate anyone from reddit. Pol is divided between maga chuds, neonazis who think trump isn't going far enough and a handful of libertarians though.

    • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It started as one.

      But I've had the displeasure of knowing one of them in person. They're dead serious.

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    Ill never stop laughing at that trans person asserting "noone has done more for the military than trans people" then they went onto brag about how they designed lots of parts for different types of drones

    Idpol folks... Its fucking meaningless red meat thrown out by the booj for culture wars

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      They are self-aware. They're just the type of person who basks in their own sociopathy, like most members of the US ruling class.