A question to my US comrades, how popular is Irish republicanism over there?

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    people don't know what republicanism means here. education on civics is non-existent and partisan nonsense fills the void.

    our two parties are Republicans and Democrats and the origin of those terms is lost on everyone. both are capitalist, though republicans are more mask-off white nationalists about it. so if you say "republicanism", the first thought people here are going to have is "political conservatism". i've literally had highly educated conservatives in academia say to my face, unironically, that letting the wider population influence the role of government in the U.S. is contrary to our most basic ideals, because "we're not a democracy, we're a republic." this is a verbatim talking point in conservative media and you can find it anywhere conservatives cluster. i say all this to really drive home that no one here knows anything about what words mean.

    so, the average American being told that one is "an Irish republican" is going to be interpreted as "probably conservative guy with an irish accent", unless they do any investigation into the topic. which they won't. and if they did, they not be able to process anything more complicated than "yeah, they should kick out those Brits like we did."

    there is zero recognition that irish republicanism has any connection to leftism, probably mostly due to general ignorance about leftism.

    • DrSan [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I've seen chud posts on facebook celebrating photos of Spanish republicans lol

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Considering "democracy" is what just destroyed labor laws in favor of Uber in california when laws that protected workers passed with 75 percent of votes in the legislative "republic" bodies, it's more complicated than saying one is better than the other in all cases.

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        i should clarify by saying, according to my calculations, the united states is neither a democracy or a republic. it is a monster that consumes humans and defecates dollars.

      • shitstorm [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Bourgeoisie democracy is not a good model. That is exactly why workers of the industry should control their own fates, so consumers can't decide to fuck them over unilaterally.

        • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          One thing that's at least beneficial about the American model is that should you take over an executive office (mayor/governor/president, AG/DA/ect) you have unilateral powers to act without needing the legislature.

          Legislative bodies are truthfully immovable, and they were designed that way for the reason that immovability benefits intrenched wealthy folks.