A question to my US comrades, how popular is Irish republicanism over there?

  • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Literally can't think of a single person I know who I expect would know what "Irish republicanism" means. Most of them would probably say they're Irish people who oppose abortion and gay marriage.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    We love the Irish in America

    We have an entire day of the year where we comodify the Irish experience of wearing green, drinking beer and making beer green!

    • Nuggs [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I find it so funny that something so toxic in England is so universally excepted in the US. Do you think Sinn Fein would get much backing, or would their other politics be to toxic

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        They'd have to really lean into the stereotypes and have their key issue be making St Patrick's Day a national holiday.

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Irish Republicanism was fairly popular in the US at it's height, enough so that people like Joe Biden would be comfortable meeting prominent republicans. It was unique though in that the Americans of Irish descent who supported it thought it was identical to the American Revolution. Nowadays it's kind of a meme though and most people probably don't know where Ireland is.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Probably pretty popular among the left left, but most people are super unaware of everything.

    However, most Americans would probably like the idea of the British being kicked out of something.

  • ProfessionalSlacker
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    4 years ago

    Biden isn't fucking Irish! I have triple the German ancestry that he has Irish ancestry, and if i went around saying I was German people would think I was being a douchebag.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Critical support for Joe Biden and his struggle against UK imperialism in Ireland

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I support the opposite of whatever the UK media supports, so I guess I got critical support for Biden now. Guess I really am a cultural Marxist, shiiiit.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    people don't know what republicanism means here. education on civics is non-existent and partisan nonsense fills the void.

    our two parties are Republicans and Democrats and the origin of those terms is lost on everyone. both are capitalist, though republicans are more mask-off white nationalists about it. so if you say "republicanism", the first thought people here are going to have is "political conservatism". i've literally had highly educated conservatives in academia say to my face, unironically, that letting the wider population influence the role of government in the U.S. is contrary to our most basic ideals, because "we're not a democracy, we're a republic." this is a verbatim talking point in conservative media and you can find it anywhere conservatives cluster. i say all this to really drive home that no one here knows anything about what words mean.

    so, the average American being told that one is "an Irish republican" is going to be interpreted as "probably conservative guy with an irish accent", unless they do any investigation into the topic. which they won't. and if they did, they not be able to process anything more complicated than "yeah, they should kick out those Brits like we did."

    there is zero recognition that irish republicanism has any connection to leftism, probably mostly due to general ignorance about leftism.

    • DrSan [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I've seen chud posts on facebook celebrating photos of Spanish republicans lol

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Considering "democracy" is what just destroyed labor laws in favor of Uber in california when laws that protected workers passed with 75 percent of votes in the legislative "republic" bodies, it's more complicated than saying one is better than the other in all cases.

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        i should clarify by saying, according to my calculations, the united states is neither a democracy or a republic. it is a monster that consumes humans and defecates dollars.

      • shitstorm [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Bourgeoisie democracy is not a good model. That is exactly why workers of the industry should control their own fates, so consumers can't decide to fuck them over unilaterally.

        • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          One thing that's at least beneficial about the American model is that should you take over an executive office (mayor/governor/president, AG/DA/ect) you have unilateral powers to act without needing the legislature.

          Legislative bodies are truthfully immovable, and they were designed that way for the reason that immovability benefits intrenched wealthy folks.

  • charles_xcx [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i support Irish republicanism and talk about it whenever i can lol, and people usually look at me weird. but when I was a kid my dumbass dad (who's grandparents were from ireland) told me the IRA were psychopaths who liked to blow up school busses full of children.

    probably the only thing I like about biden is his support for ireland and the GFA

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    White folks in the USA don't give a flying fuck about anything outside of the borders of the USA.