this stems from another conversation on this site.
a commenter used the pronoun "they" because they didn't know the gender. Commenter could have looked at an inactives users profile to see the pronouns were she/her, but they didn't.
So the question is: is it wrong to use pronoun "they" when you simply don't know or needed to know the gender? I was told that "liberals" use it aggressively/offensively to trans people, but most liberals i know aren't smart enough to know about pronouns and how to use them properly.
I've been using "they" to admit gender ignorance all the fuckin time so im just trying to see if im wrong or not. Because ive never heard of this before. and i thought this site had told me everything by now lol
edit: thank you all for the comments. ill certainly try to remember to check pronouns of inactive accounts before i talk about them, but we need to be able to debate from a reasonable position and jumping to "HOW DARE YOU SAY THEY YOU LIB" isn't going to do shit. Lenin created schools to educate workers, Hexbear is our school. and i fucking love this school.
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lmao bein a woke lib who is still participating in gender coercion is a really "funny" bit. their kid is gonna come out to them in 12 years and they're gonna be like "darling it's really insensitive of you to appropriate transfem experiences like that. now come on, we're late for soccer practice."
I don't think anyone would fault you for using the information you currently have available, even if it might possibly be outdated. And if someone happens to know updated information, a quick correction is all it would take.
And thinking to check a profile for pronouns is now something you can try to be aware of, and do better with.
I do wish you would use hir correct (as far as we know) pronouns now that you have been corrected, though.
i never interacted with tc69 but other people were using she/her so if i had a reason to participate in that other conversation i would have carried on with those pronouns, but maybe those were made after the user this post is sortof about made comment.
i've never clicked on someone's profile and i'm not going to start, i didn't even know we had profile pages and especially with the scuffed accessibility standard preventing links from opening in new tabs I think clicking onto a new page and losing track of your place in a conversation is enough of a competing accessibility to rise above "bare minimum", as someone else put it.
maybe userpings or links to whatever the fuck a profile is should have the pronounce in them
That's completely fair and valid. It would definitely be helpful to have pronouns added to pings/profile links in the name of accessibility.
at this point, there is a weird trend where accounts newer than 3 months old think it's horrible, and 3 year old accounts are ok with it. so that's at least interesting. most people here seems to agree with you, but a few new users take offense to it. We're not going to convince people to join our side if you choose to argue from the most leftist side possible at all times, a side that maybe 5% of the population can understand.
i keep saying this, but please don't be a parody of ourselves. shit's bad enough as it is.
Yeah I don't put a ton of stock in account age. I have shitty takes too no doubt. And I took a huge break (funny enough largely because of the user in question). But I am trying my best not to be a lib and do praxis and care for comrades in all their spaces and that's about the best I got.
im trying not to, but the trend is certainly odd.
But going to "HOW DARE YOU SAY THEY" is just being TC69 and trying to keep people away from HexBear and therefore we can't change anyones mind. Like, do you want progress or not? It's not easy from our side but it has to be done.(and this only applies to being online. if i could throw every transphobe into a literal pit, i would)
Honestly this reeks of defensiveness. We aren't trying to crucify you we are trying to correct your behavior, you've got to examine why you're so committed to not being wrong instead of learning because that attitude is the opposite of scientific socialism.
Also I've been here since the start and never been banned, I'm just into opsec.
Also about the perception of people attacking you. Trans women being de-gendered with they/them is a super common microaggression. People are justifiably upset even if you initially didn't do anything wrong, you've got to learn that you exist in an information system larger than your self knowledge where you will cause harm and people will react negatively to it because that is the appropriate reaction without attaching any morality to that.