Article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-75481-z

  • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I like to believe that, as unbelievably horrible as climate change and everything will get, it'll end up forcing the world to adopt communism. I don't think the systems of control that the capitalist class relies on will be enough to keep tens or hundreds of millions of imminently dying proles from open revolt. The imperial core countries that rely on imperialism to prop up their own economies seem like they'll collapse pretty hard, and even the US military won't be able to keep entire continents directly subjugated.

    I dunno, I think the only countries that could remain stable will be the ones with the ability to coordinate large-scale central planning and manage catastrophic disasters (e.g., China).

    Maybe communists should get into prepping.

    • TheCaconym [any]
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      4 years ago

      I'd like to believe that too but I suspect when climate refugees start moving in the tens of millions, dwarfing any so-called "refugee crisis" we've seen in the past, things will sadly probably move in the other direction.

      • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'm thinking more about domestic unrest. Climate refugees are probably fucked, unfortunately.

        • TheCaconym [any]
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          4 years ago

          My fear is that many countries will go full fascist when such refugees start coming at the borders, rather than full communist.

          • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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            I mean, in the global south countries where people are just dying in droves, where presumably there won't be many at the borders. And if they're forced to reorganize their economies, I don't think even a fascist US could hold on to the global empire.

            • femboi [they/them, she/her]
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              4 years ago

              I tend to agree with you, it’s sad that things will likely have to get that bad before they can get better, but hopefully a solidly communist global south will be able to if not thrive, at least mitigate the worst parts of the climate apocalypse and keep people alive