I predict that there will be a movie where the characters wear masks and socially distance. It'll be like an artsy indie movie about how we live in a society and you'll watch it because everyone will be sharing their takes and you don't wanna be out of the loop and the movie will be ok.

  • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The government is already willing to do so many awful things to people, I can see why you'd maybe feel a little worried by the Trump admin saying "here, inject this into your body, it's good for you".

    I'm personally not anti-vax though am maybe a bit skeptical because when your country is willing to give medical personnel bin bags as PPE then you might wonder about the quality of the vaccine. Definitely still take it when it's available but there will be that voice in my head who's not so sure.

    Anti-vax in general seems to be misplaced anger anyway. Anger that your kid has some kind of disability, anger at big pharma, anger at the government etc.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, I'm also a huge proponent of vaccines in general but what skeeves me out about the American vaccine candidates is that they're new kinds of vaccines that haven't been used in humans before, which is itself fine (kind of cool even) but mixed with the rush to market and FDA fast-tracking it makes me super nervous.

      Really hope I'll be able to get the Chinese vaccine which uses a pretty tried-and-true method of invoking an immune response for a vaccine and seems to be performing well in its trials.

      I'm pretty privileged in that I don't need the vaccine immediately since I rarely go out into the world these days, so I'm gonna hold off for awhile.

      • s0ciety [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        but mixed with the rush to market and FDA fast-tracking it makes me super nervous

        This is reasonable tbh. I'm fine with a vaccine, but there's not a lot of data and absolutely no data on potential long term effects (especially that new type of vaccine).

        There's a ocean of difference between being an anti-vax weirdo and being cautious.

        • theother2020 [comrade/them, she/her]
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          4 years ago

          There’s a ocean of difference between being an anti-vax weirdo and being cautious.

          Agree, but what happens is anti-vaxxers exploit that window of reasonability to push their agenda and the vax side demands complete party loyalty, or they characterize you as an anti-vaxxer loon

          • OgdenTO [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            This is how I feel about 5g. I don't think the RF levels are high enough to cause cancer or "cook your brain", but being skeptical about a more than doubling of the background RF radiation, in conjunction with some initial studies that show some metabolic disruption with low-rise long term RF at some of the 5G frequencies maybe suggests that we should take a step back and do some additional longer term tests first rather than rush it to market.

            Like, the Covid vaccine I understand there's a benefit to getting it fast. But 5G? Nobody needs that urgently or even at all. Putting people potentially at risk for slightly better video streaming does not really show a good cost/benefit risk ratio to speed it past testing

            • ParodyTheLibs [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              Where did you read about 5g downsides? Something I haven't researched much and sounds like I should

              • OgdenTO [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                There are a lot of studies, but this is a good and reputable overview of some of the more interesting results ( also check out the references therein, if you want more details). I think it is of note that of the studies they looked at, approximately 80% showed effects from irradiation on the functioning of cells (both in vitro of in vivo) : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6765906/