I don't really know what to say to that, honestly. What, exactly, do you consider to be better about feudalism compared to capitalism? I can't think of a literal single thing.
. What, exactly, do you consider to be better about feudalism compared to capitalism?
I mean there were some pretty sweet parts of it. The moral certainty, the sense of community, the lack of environmental collapse, the government usually not concerning itself with you as long as you didn't bug em
Shit, Being The Dude seems pretty possible back then, sounds comfy. Obvi living nowadays is better, but thats only because of technology
got to say though, feels bad knowing that i will never get to eat hash with a judge, impress the sheikh with my long dong, and be rewarded with a cushy job eating more hash and telling stories in his court :sadness:
I suppose this is more a criticism of industrialism, rather than capitalism, since a feudal society might have this same problem in the modern day (who knows, haven't tested it). But, as the post pointed out, medieval peasants had significantly more free time than we workers do now. If you're a farmer, a good chunk of your time is just spent waiting for your crops to grow. There's nothing you can do to make them grow any harder. You've just gotta wait for the sun and the dirt and the rain to do their job.
So you can do whatever you want. Fuck off into the woods, watch some birds. Hang out with your friends. Build something for your own satisfaction. Make a work of art.
I don't consider free time in and of itself to be better than the lack of it, especially when there is not that much to actually do in all that free time. I'd rather be occupied with something I hate than feel like I don't have anything to do, if I was ok with existing in a null value I probably would've killed myself already.
Also either way this kind of critique is meaningless because in no reality is industrialization ever going away, unless we get wiped out by a meteor or something. Even in the worst case scenarios climate change will not make the conditions for industrial society impossible, it'll just make those industrial societies much smaller and deprive them of most luxuries and pleasurable items in general. Hell, the continued industrial-ness will probably be mandatory to survive in worst-case climate scenarios.
especially when there is not that much to actually do in all that free time.
This is just bad history. Medieval peasants occupied themselves with hobbies just like we do. Just because they didn't have video games doesn't mean they had nothing to do.
I didn't mean to imply that and frankly regret writing that first paragraph because it just takes away from the more meaningful second paragraph. Obviously they still did things and had hobbies there's bundles of archeological evidence for that, but the breadth of possible things to do was much narrower.
Perhaps it's just a matter of personal preference but if forced to choose I will always prefer a wide variety of options with less time to do them in than a narrower variety of options with more time to do them in. Although obviously more time and more options is always better, and sufficient automation might get us there at some point.
I don't really know what to say to that, honestly. What, exactly, do you consider to be better about feudalism compared to capitalism? I can't think of a literal single thing.
I mean there were some pretty sweet parts of it. The moral certainty, the sense of community, the lack of environmental collapse, the government usually not concerning itself with you as long as you didn't bug em
Shit, Being The Dude seems pretty possible back then, sounds comfy. Obvi living nowadays is better, but thats only because of technology
that story of the hash eater is excellent thanks for sharing
of all medieval stories I've read it's the most Dudes Rock of em all. YW m8
got to say though, feels bad knowing that i will never get to eat hash with a judge, impress the sheikh with my long dong, and be rewarded with a cushy job eating more hash and telling stories in his court :sadness:
I suppose this is more a criticism of industrialism, rather than capitalism, since a feudal society might have this same problem in the modern day (who knows, haven't tested it). But, as the post pointed out, medieval peasants had significantly more free time than we workers do now. If you're a farmer, a good chunk of your time is just spent waiting for your crops to grow. There's nothing you can do to make them grow any harder. You've just gotta wait for the sun and the dirt and the rain to do their job.
So you can do whatever you want. Fuck off into the woods, watch some birds. Hang out with your friends. Build something for your own satisfaction. Make a work of art.
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I don't consider free time in and of itself to be better than the lack of it, especially when there is not that much to actually do in all that free time. I'd rather be occupied with something I hate than feel like I don't have anything to do, if I was ok with existing in a null value I probably would've killed myself already.
Also either way this kind of critique is meaningless because in no reality is industrialization ever going away, unless we get wiped out by a meteor or something. Even in the worst case scenarios climate change will not make the conditions for industrial society impossible, it'll just make those industrial societies much smaller and deprive them of most luxuries and pleasurable items in general. Hell, the continued industrial-ness will probably be mandatory to survive in worst-case climate scenarios.
This is just bad history. Medieval peasants occupied themselves with hobbies just like we do. Just because they didn't have video games doesn't mean they had nothing to do.
I didn't mean to imply that and frankly regret writing that first paragraph because it just takes away from the more meaningful second paragraph. Obviously they still did things and had hobbies there's bundles of archeological evidence for that, but the breadth of possible things to do was much narrower.
Perhaps it's just a matter of personal preference but if forced to choose I will always prefer a wide variety of options with less time to do them in than a narrower variety of options with more time to do them in. Although obviously more time and more options is always better, and sufficient automation might get us there at some point.