• redterror [he/him]
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      Yeah, the reason they do that (the US and imperialists) is so the country is forced to take out an IMF/World Bank loan after the war is over to finance reconstruction, and the IMF/World Bank's condtions for getting their loans are extreme privatization of everything, deregulation, and allowing corporations to run rampant over their country. It's why Pakistan and Bangladesh have sweatshops and people getting paid $1 an hour - the World Bank and IMF are responsible for that.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      Everything was a big fat war crime

    • RedArmor [he/him]
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      Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions, Article 52, provides for the general protection of civilian objects, hindering attacks to military objectives. Article 52 states, "In so far as objects are concerned, military objectives are limited to those objects which by their nature, location, purpose or use make an effective contribution to military action and whose total or partial destruction, capture or neutralization, in the circumstances ruling at the time, offers a definite military advantage.

      Roads, water, electricity, etc could all be used by the military, so that makes them legitimate military targets. Those kids? They possibly could have grown up to fight against our troops so it’s actually okay we blew up that school.

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    It's sickening how effective Western propaganda is, these kind of images of the damages that USA has caused to other countries are objectively, in every way worse than the Tianmen picture but do we ever see westerners post these kind of pictures, to talk about these things every time the USA is mentioned, to have the same vitriol hatred toward the US as they do toward China. Fucking hell man :angry-hex:

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      Yeah. It's nice to reply with before and after pics of Detroit or caged immigrant children, that always makes them seeth.

  • Rem [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    This is the best use of that horrible children's book I've seen, great work

    • Homestar440 [he/him]
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      I have no doubt it was originally drawn to be favorable, but it somehow accurately captures her fucking crazy psycho eyes....the longer you look, the eerier it gets

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    Not just because Gadaffi didn't want to use the dollar, but also because he wanted a United States of Africa to resist imperialism, and he was a socialist.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Oh dang, that's a total crime against humanity

    • No_Values [none/use name]
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      He was socialist

      kinda

      The Green Book rejects both capitalism and communism, as well as representative democracy. Instead, it proposes a type of direct democracy overseen by the General People's >Committee which allows direct political participation for all adult citizens.[7][9]

      The book states that "Freedom of expression is the natural right of every person, even if they choose to behave irrationally, to express his or her insanity."[10] The Green Book states that >freedom of speech is based upon public ownership of book publishers, newspapers, television, and radio stations, on the grounds that private ownership would be undemocratic.[7]

      A paragraph in the book about abolishing money is similar to a paragraph in Frederick Engels' Principles of Communism.[11] Gaddafi wrote: "The final step is when the new socialist >society reaches the stage where profit and money disappear. It is through transforming society into a fully productive society, and through reaching in production a level where the >material needs of the members of society are satisfied. On that final stage, profit will automatically disappear and there will be no need for money."[12]

      Obviously purported ideology and actual governance are not the same

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        4 years ago

        IIRC he never got far in that, and made a big show of giving it up after the Iraq War started to try to get in the West's good graces. Which clearly worked very well for him.

  • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I watched footage of an actual slave auction being held in Libya, which is apparently a thing that happens regularly there now. (I don't recommend watching, but videos are easy to find if you look.) We sure are great at spreading freedom around all over the world!

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm gonna regret it but hit me

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Really, I'm usually the type to read about stuff but not watch the actual footage because I want to be able to sleep at night, but for some reason I watched that, and it's bad. You're watching a human being being sold right before your eyes. I've never forgotten it, and I honestly don't recommend that anyone else watch either.

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          I get it, and I probably won't watch it, but I'm deff gonna spam it in r*ddit, woth proper nsfw tags and everything

          • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/14/africa/libya-migrant-auctions/index.html https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2017/11/13/libya-migrant-slave-auction-lon-orig-md-ejk.cnn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2qtGisT34&ab_channel=CNN

            OK, I'm skimming the articles, and here's the first one to contextualize the slave trade with the US invasion of Libya. The rest of them so far totally ignore why they're able to operate with impunity: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/inside-the-smuggler-s-warehouse-africa-s-21st-century-slave-trade-1.4224073

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    At least Gadaffi got a bayonet up his ass and isn't tyrannical anymore! /s

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Hold on, Fr*nce took a loan from Lybia?

      • discopolo [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Gaddafi gave a ton of money to Sarkozy for his election bid

        https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/france-libya-sarkozy-charged-gaddafi-money

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          middle east

          Lybia

          Huh

          • discopolo [none/use name]
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            Is that really all you got? The Middle east includes Egypt as well, and Libya is next to it. Libya is still Arab and connected to the middle east.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          Okay, read the article now. Why Gaddaffi wanted Sarkosy to win?

          Also Lybia is not in the middle east c'mon

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    I remember listening to an ISO (defunct US Cliffite-Trot party) talk about Libya during the crisis. Main speaker was some America college student of Libyan background. She admitted that her parents were recipients of generous scholarship to study in the US by the Gaddafi Government, but hey Gaddafi was a dictator and had to go! .... Sadly Cliffite Trots are not alone in turning into State Department mouthpieces whenever the US starts a regime change adventure. The very popular DemocracyNow! was very pro regime change and they repeated the same parroting with Syria.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Arrivists middle class surely love to burn the ladder they used to get there. Everywhere is the same.