I’ve been playing it on pc and think it’s awesome so far. It’s an older pc that barely hits the minimum specs but haven’t had any problems, so far the story is great. Only complaint so far is the AI is dumb as hell
it's like they looked at the AI in oblivion and thought "yeah let's just copy this"
there's no teamwork and they don't really use their abilities much at all
my favorite one was I was in this warehouse sneaking through and I went to the second floor, instead of following me up the closest set of stairs, my companion left me and walked all the way through the main floor through all the enemies and then walked backwards with his back to me up the stairs across from me. 👌
I wish, the oblivion ai at least did things and had dialogue that made sense in context instead of just 20 canned dialogue lines and a literally on rails path that just breaks of you block it.
yeah i think for the random NPCs on the street it's more like GTA: VC than an WRPG. which is kind of a shame but also understandable, considering how many people there are.
there are also not as many random places to explore with dialgoed npcs as in something like fallout 4 or oblivion. it's very pretty but most of it is a facade, you cannot go inside most buildings.
It's a fun game that's constantly reminding you that it could have been so much more. There are very clearly dozens of mechanics that were either cut or developed and then abandoned, like the mystery skill slot on the bottom of the skill tree, the arcade games that look like they're supposed to be playable, the paremovedo parlor with giant "interact with me" animations of everything, the shops that sell BDs that just say "incompatible with your hardware" even though the scanner is given to you early on, the vestiges of a wall running/parkour system (as well as a world clearly designed with that in mind).
Why does that happen? I know why features are cut near release, but so many? Feels like a Daggerfall-style game, brimming with features, many half-baked but forgiven due to ambition, can only come from indies. Seems there's a law where big studio attempts end at glitzy, fragile open worlds, with the bugs but without the ambition
It's lack of a consistent dev team. They basically had to completely rebuild their Witcher engine to do what they wanted for Cyberpunk. They did a ton of crunch and had pretty high turnover. They lost one of their leaddevs (I think he was in charge of ai actually) and probably inherited a codebase that they knew nothing about. There were tons of tech demos that showcased features, but a lot of them were probably even buggier than the features that the game shipped with so they just cut them. The ai was probably marginally better at one point, but was causing massive performance issues due to the number of npcs in areas so they cut it and put in a placeholder so the game would run.
This game is basically the poster child for feature creep. It's just that usually you end up with more half assed features instead of just dozens of empty husks. Like there's literally a fully modeled subway system in the game that they just cut. The train stations are enterable, but there aren't any ways to get to them without doing some creative parkour. The way the street cred system works feels like it was quickly retooled from something involving the clothing system, and the implant armor makes it feel like the armor system was an afterthought.
So yeah, it was definitely just an incredibly ambitions dev team that implemented all these small demos to show to marketing who then hyped them way the fuck up only to realize later that the devs couldn't deliver, or the dev that made that feature for fired/retasked to something more critical like scripting animations or something.
I’ve been playing it on pc and think it’s awesome so far. It’s an older pc that barely hits the minimum specs but haven’t had any problems, so far the story is great. Only complaint so far is the AI is dumb as hell
it's like they looked at the AI in oblivion and thought "yeah let's just copy this" there's no teamwork and they don't really use their abilities much at all
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my favorite one was I was in this warehouse sneaking through and I went to the second floor, instead of following me up the closest set of stairs, my companion left me and walked all the way through the main floor through all the enemies and then walked backwards with his back to me up the stairs across from me. 👌
I wish, the oblivion ai at least did things and had dialogue that made sense in context instead of just 20 canned dialogue lines and a literally on rails path that just breaks of you block it.
yeah i think for the random NPCs on the street it's more like GTA: VC than an WRPG. which is kind of a shame but also understandable, considering how many people there are. there are also not as many random places to explore with dialgoed npcs as in something like fallout 4 or oblivion. it's very pretty but most of it is a facade, you cannot go inside most buildings.
It's a fun game that's constantly reminding you that it could have been so much more. There are very clearly dozens of mechanics that were either cut or developed and then abandoned, like the mystery skill slot on the bottom of the skill tree, the arcade games that look like they're supposed to be playable, the paremovedo parlor with giant "interact with me" animations of everything, the shops that sell BDs that just say "incompatible with your hardware" even though the scanner is given to you early on, the vestiges of a wall running/parkour system (as well as a world clearly designed with that in mind).
Why does that happen? I know why features are cut near release, but so many? Feels like a Daggerfall-style game, brimming with features, many half-baked but forgiven due to ambition, can only come from indies. Seems there's a law where big studio attempts end at glitzy, fragile open worlds, with the bugs but without the ambition
Means the eventual mods could be really cool though; pirating the game and then modding it to be unrecognizable is the cyberpunk we made on the way
It's lack of a consistent dev team. They basically had to completely rebuild their Witcher engine to do what they wanted for Cyberpunk. They did a ton of crunch and had pretty high turnover. They lost one of their leaddevs (I think he was in charge of ai actually) and probably inherited a codebase that they knew nothing about. There were tons of tech demos that showcased features, but a lot of them were probably even buggier than the features that the game shipped with so they just cut them. The ai was probably marginally better at one point, but was causing massive performance issues due to the number of npcs in areas so they cut it and put in a placeholder so the game would run.
This game is basically the poster child for feature creep. It's just that usually you end up with more half assed features instead of just dozens of empty husks. Like there's literally a fully modeled subway system in the game that they just cut. The train stations are enterable, but there aren't any ways to get to them without doing some creative parkour. The way the street cred system works feels like it was quickly retooled from something involving the clothing system, and the implant armor makes it feel like the armor system was an afterthought.
So yeah, it was definitely just an incredibly ambitions dev team that implemented all these small demos to show to marketing who then hyped them way the fuck up only to realize later that the devs couldn't deliver, or the dev that made that feature for fired/retasked to something more critical like scripting animations or something.