• Koolio [any]M
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      4 years ago

      It's a bi-modal system, either you're filthy rich as a partner to some corporate law firm, or you're working 80 hours a week doing legal aid for the poor, and can't afford both your rent and student loans.

      • Bedandsofa [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It’s definitely bi-modal salary wise, but the bulk of the profession has effectively transitioned to a wage labor model. Even at the top of the salary range, fewer attorneys are actually making partner and fewer get any slice of the pie in terms of equity. Associates at big law firms do make quite a bit of money, but they’re also having the productivity squeezed out of them to the tune of 80 hours a week until they burn out.

        At the bottom of the range, public defense/legal services is actually a better-paying and more secure job than a lot of what you’ll find with small-time law firms and solo practitioners.

        You meet quite a few disillusioned lawyers nowadays.

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    There is a convention (somewhat outdated and often not followed) that people with PhDs are technically Doctors and can be referred to as such.

    No one in the history of the world has or will ever refer to a lawyer as a Doctor. They are lucky they don't get spit on and beaten when they go outside.

    Other than public defenders, the only good type of lawyer, in fact I will start addressing them as Doctors, confusing everyone.

  • GorillaGloo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    JFC you dumdums have an honorific already, Esquire. No need to get all butthurt about not using Doctor.

    • Koolio [any]M
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      4 years ago

      Makes it sound like they sit around with their pinkies in the air all the time.

  • bananon [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This PhD vs MD fight is so weird, because it completely misses the point. Being anally retentive about your honorifics is the problem, not whether or not your degree is valid. PhD’s are absolutely doctors, but correcting people when they don’t use your special title, regardless of what that title is, is a bad move. If my physician refused to talk to me unless I said “doctor” before their name, they’d be an asshole, even when they’re universally regarded as doctors. Leave the honorifics for formal settings, not everyday conversation.