Uh yeah what exactly is it that you think social democrats do around here? Let me try to remember the last public pressure campaign mounted by the DSA...uh I can't
We're sure as shit not getting anything done without some type of organization, and any functioning organization is going to have some rules. Siding with a ranting media personality over people at least attempting to gain political power is a laughable take.
Put a vote to it, primary people who vote against it. Pretty simple. If thats not even possible what is the purpose of AOC and why is she functionally different from Nancy Pelosi?
Don't you think normal people, who're not in to poltics as much as you and I might be, might be outraged if they saw congres vote against medicare for all during a deadly pandemic which made millions of people lose their employer-based healthcare?
And wouldn't you agfree that such acts are important in building the left?
Doesn't the bi-partisan shoot-down of the $2K stimulus... plus the fact that everyone's going to be getting a comically low $600 check after 9 months of waiting accomplish the same thing?
And if people aren't paying attention to the thing which is literally - "here's some money," what makes you think they'll pay attention to the comparitively less-easy-to-understand (but still pretty simple) universal healthcare stuff?
Normal people just elected Joe Biden, who said during the campaign that he'd veto M4A if it came to his desk.
It's a winning issue for the left, but a lot of people who like it in a vacuum aren't single-issue M4A voters. And I think the number of people it would resonate with would be low because (pick one) it's lame duck season, Trump is probably going to do something outrageous a day or two later that will drive it from the news, the news isn't going to give this wall-to-wall coverage anyways, and even people who tune in recognize it has zero chance of going anywhere.
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Uh yeah what exactly is it that you think social democrats do around here? Let me try to remember the last public pressure campaign mounted by the DSA...uh I can't
More than these ineffectual dorks and their stupid orgs. Normal ppl don't give a fuck about the rules section of the DSA nerd handbook
We're sure as shit not getting anything done without some type of organization, and any functioning organization is going to have some rules. Siding with a ranting media personality over people at least attempting to gain political power is a laughable take.
Ranting by demanding a vote on a popular policy lol
Pathetic bar for the socialist caucus. Can't even demand votes on shit from politicians who agree with them
Whether they do this or not, we're not getting M4A for years. It's immaterial. Berating anyone over this is ridiculous.
Put a vote to it, primary people who vote against it. Pretty simple. If thats not even possible what is the purpose of AOC and why is she functionally different from Nancy Pelosi?
there is none
she's not, aside from being mildly more likeable.
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We already know who's against it. We just had an election season where it was an issue in the primaries.
Don't you think normal people, who're not in to poltics as much as you and I might be, might be outraged if they saw congres vote against medicare for all during a deadly pandemic which made millions of people lose their employer-based healthcare?
And wouldn't you agfree that such acts are important in building the left?
Doesn't the bi-partisan shoot-down of the $2K stimulus... plus the fact that everyone's going to be getting a comically low $600 check after 9 months of waiting accomplish the same thing?
And if people aren't paying attention to the thing which is literally - "here's some money," what makes you think they'll pay attention to the comparitively less-easy-to-understand (but still pretty simple) universal healthcare stuff?
Normal people just elected Joe Biden, who said during the campaign that he'd veto M4A if it came to his desk.
It's a winning issue for the left, but a lot of people who like it in a vacuum aren't single-issue M4A voters. And I think the number of people it would resonate with would be low because (pick one) it's lame duck season, Trump is probably going to do something outrageous a day or two later that will drive it from the news, the news isn't going to give this wall-to-wall coverage anyways, and even people who tune in recognize it has zero chance of going anywhere.
Whose we and how are you sure we knows shit period???
How does anyone know anything????
There's a M4A bill in the House with 118 cosponsors. There's your list of who's for and against it.