I have only seen national DSA leadership oppose the idea or turn it into a personality contest with Jimmy Dore.
How is that democratic at all?! They are openly contradicting the democratically-decided party line…
What an absolutely shit organization.
Here's the quote:
2019 presents a unique opportunity for the Democratic Socialists for Medicare for All campaign: to be a key player in pushing HR 1384, the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act, to a vote in the House of Representatives. DSA is not alone in this work. National Nurses United, along with nearly 30 other national and local unions and progressive organizations are coordinating to take advantage of this moment. Since Bernie Sanders’ presidential run in 2016, single-payer advocates have been successfully turning Medicare for All into a litmus test for politicians. A floor vote in the House will force representatives to finally reveal whether they’re on the side of healthcare profiteers or the side of the working class.
I want to work with people who are struggling for the progressive issue of getting people health care during a pandemic.
I do not expect this strategy will succeed. I don't expect health care will be guaranteed to people until there is a socialist revolution here.
I didn't expect the Bernie campaign would get him elected. I didn't expect the BLM protests to overthrow the police states across this country. I engaged with these struggle to meet progressive-minded people, and guide them towards political strategies which have been proven to work.
I don't get paid for this shit you fucking dweeb. I work full-time. If building political power is too "careerist" for you, stop positioning yourself as someone worth working with. Just admit Left-wing politics is a counter-culture for you.
Well then you should go work with some labor organizers, because you aren't going to meet anyone who can actually achieve anything on on that Slack, just more posters.
Lmao, yeah, because all of the social democratic countries that have actual universal healthcare had successful socialist revolutions. This is sentence is truly emblematic of the problems with this movement. You literally romaticize and dream of defeat before you have even started the task. Truly the mark of a rudderless "movement" of posters.
"Excuse me, dont't get mad at me that I'm networking on Slack instead of doing something useful."
Please, tell me more about how you romanticize the defeat of this movement, and tellme again which of us views this as a cultural engagement.
I am. Both before and after this issue.
There are literal union organizers on the Slack lol
I don't understand your desire to infantilize people trying to advocate for health care in a pandemic.
They had successful socialist revolutions within 500 miles of their borders. If Mexico and Canada become the next Soviet bloc, I'll revise my statement.
Coordinating with progressive-minded people is actually not useful. Again, this isn't a counter-culture.
Oh damn, y'all got the Burgerville guys?
I'm looking on a map, but I can't seem to find the socialist revolution that happened withing 500 miles of the 90% of Canadians that live withing 100 miles of the US border. Was there one in Greenland? I guess that would explain how Iceland has universal healthcare as well. Ireland and the UK are coming up a bit tricky to explain, though.
There it is, now you got it.
Condescending to workers is always the end-game for Liberals 🤡
Lol more bad faith argumentation from the #ForcetheVote crowd, who are unwilling to admit they have no power and no actual plan to build it.
Ah yes, I'm the one acting in bad faith lol
You have been a condescending prick this entire thread.
You hate the unruly masses desperately trying to get basic access to health care during a pandemic. That has been your response to every comment. You will just condescend to these people. They are just a "crowd" with "no actual plan."
It's crazy how the right-wing jobs against Bernie now get regurgitated uncritically. It is astounding to see.
You have literally been condescending to every person in this thread who dares point out how this strategy is empty liberalism, and you deserve nothing but condescendion in return.
No, I hate college educated liberals like you, who are more interested in pumping up their followers on Twitter and showing how revolutionary you are through the discourse than actually doing anything to actually build power. Because you just want to post on the fucking internet about how revolutionary you are and yell at anyone who dares point our the most obvious flaws in your "plans", material circumstances be damned! You and the libs like you couldn't organize a fucking bake sale. That's why you can't get the working class to buy into any of your horrible strategies: you are incapable of delivering even the meagerest of material victories for them, so instead you set your eyes on goals you openly tell them are unachievable, and expect them to show up with you and bask in beautiful defeat.
Almost everyone on this site is a comrade in one form or another. There's no reason to say such condescending things towards people you disagree with here. Make your critiques in a constructive manner instead of making personal attacks on people.
My first comment in this thread. I don't see anything particularly condescending here. I want to work with people who want to fight for health care during a pandemic.
Your response to me.
I can read. You have been a condescending prick from the beginning.
You are projecting a lot of weird hang-ups you have onto me. It's weird. Your rant here is embarrassing.
You're begging me to dox my political and labor work to demonstrate that normal people support an unequivocal demand for health care during a pandemic. I can't think of any other reason to say slanderous shit about me.