Right, yes. The question didn't frame 'utopian' in the marxist sense, so I went with the the sense that was both the original, and still the most commonly used. Didn't realize that would be controversial hehe
But ya, gammison's take is really good too. I think there's value in both the orthodox marxist take, and my more general take. It kind of parallels what you said, that there are both positive and negative dimensions to envisioning utopia. Which is why I'm not responding to astigmatic's negativity haha
Fully understand you position, I just thought since your answer was the top post it would be worth adding an explanation of that other point of view :p
Right, yes. The question didn't frame 'utopian' in the marxist sense, so I went with the the sense that was both the original, and still the most commonly used. Didn't realize that would be controversial hehe
But ya, gammison's take is really good too. I think there's value in both the orthodox marxist take, and my more general take. It kind of parallels what you said, that there are both positive and negative dimensions to envisioning utopia. Which is why I'm not responding to astigmatic's negativity haha
Fully understand you position, I just thought since your answer was the top post it would be worth adding an explanation of that other point of view :p
Ya hell ya :) :heart-sickle: