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  • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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    4 years ago

    538 gave Clinton a 70% chance of winning on Election Day. It was 90% before the Comey Letter.

    there wasn't anything wrong with the polls

    • AlfredNobel [comrade/them,any]
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      4 years ago

      See my link below. I was referring to MSNBC which actually published a 99% prediction. New York Times was at 85%. 538 at least had the dignity to stop doing predictions.

      • idontknowwhereiam [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        15% and 1% are not similar predictions. 15% is roughly the probability of throwing a D6 and getting a 6, that is, fairly unlikely but very possible. 1% is roughly the probability of throwing three D6's and getting either 6-6-6 or 5-5-5, i.e. extremely unlikely.

        I'm not sure it's really very useful to assign probabilities to election outcomes, since they're rare, one-off, highly unpredictable events. But predicting that something will happen with probability 85%, and then it not happening, is not an inherently bad prediction. Iirc the 99% one was pretty stupid and made some obviously flawed assumptions.

        Also I think 538 just haven't got theirs ready yet. There's no way Nate Pewter can resist building a wildly overcomplicated model that basically just outputs "yeah, the person who's leading the polls will probably win, but we don't know for sure" in a numerical form that he knows most people don't understand.