So many strawmen you could build a veritable scarecrow. Which, ironically, in the Wizard of Oz, didn't have a brain.

    • gammison [none/use name]
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      Because they are completely uninterested in doing any research. You can build a very, very, good case there is mass ethnic suppression under the auspice of a war on terror without resorting to Zenz, but you have to go find random East and Central Asian studies grad students or independent journalists who spend their time translating weibo posts from random cops in Kashgar or digging through security contracts or writing about surveillance capitalism or various Chinese academics who were warning the region was being in a process of being Palestinized in like 2005, or interviewing old uyghurs who remember the sino-soviet split suppression, all of which never ever makes it onto mainstream news. I mean a hong kong based security company owned by Erik Prince has contracts for various industrial parks in the region, that is not good and you don't have to go to Zenz to find out but you have to actually care about looking around.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      Zenz: 80% of all IUDs were installed in Xinjiang!

      Also Zenz: Oh wait no my math was wrong it's actually 8%. Silly me. We won't issue a correction though.

      • MerryChristmas [any]
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        Can you provide any sources for this claim? Not that I don't believe you - I just don't know where to find accurate information on China.

  • superdoctorman [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I went to the subreddit and this is on the sidebar

    "It can't be imperialism when the flag is red." "The straight, white worker is the only real worker." The spirit of the sub is making fun of tankies from a leftist perspective. A tankie is an authoritarian or totalitarian "communist". They sound like nazis, they act like nazis. The term originated in the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, when tankies were fine with the USSR sending tanks to Hungary to crush the calls for socialism and democracy.

    This is obviously false as "tankies" support China and often middle eastern and African leaders like Assad or Sankara.

  • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I know they’re not talking to any tankies on this because a tankie wouldn’t even give them that much they’d just be like “it’s not happening. Anyway...”

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Those are terrible strawmen lol, at least when I make strawmen of them I use their own terminology. Weak.

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    Every single one of you freaks are going to look back on this period of your life in shame. The sterilization thing, take it or leave it. Religious persecution is happening regardless and there’s no justification for any of it.

      • abdul [none/use name]
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        by "take it or leave it", i meant "whether you believe it or not". and justifying mass profiling of anyone who even remotely looks like they could be muslim as a reason for interring in what could be described at best as forced labor camps is a fucking joke. when its black people being thrown in prison on the basis of their skin color to become indentured servants for the rest of their lives, everyone is on the same page. but when its religious and ethnic minorities in places that 90% of people here have had 0 zero exposure to even, then its all good, critical support is needed for whatever the fuck china wants to do to them.

          • abdul [none/use name]
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            ...I’ll fully believe that China casts too broad a net in dealing with that problem...

            jesus what a long way of saying "i dont give a shit"

            people like you are why i gave up on communism and just landed on being vaguely leftist. imagine watching your favorite government engage in open ethnic cleansing practices and still thinking they are the good guys. couldnt be me.

            im done trying to reach out but maybe you'll believe what actual MLs have to say:

            http://cpiml.net/liberation/2020/08/chinas-concentration-camps-for-uyghurs-in-chinas-own-words

      • abdul [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        how hard of a boner for ethnic cleansing do you have that you were compelled to reply to every comment I’ve made in the last day across the site? You need a psychiatrist