Swedish social democracy blames immigrants for their own disastrous coronavirus response. It's high time US socialists stopped idolizing Sweden.
sigh I work for a Swedish company and the amount of people I know there who believe that Stockholm has "no go zones" for white people is staggering. Most of them live outside the city but anyone I spoke with who did live in the city just kind of laughed when I asked. I also managed to walk/bike around a pretty substantial part of the city without being forcibly converted to Islam so. Yeah.
“no go zones” for white people
Every place on earth outside of Europe should be a no go zone for white people.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 the prosperity of every social democracy only comes from terrible working conditions in exploited countries. We can afford to live well because they can't
Fucking Sweden, absolutely cursed country. We may have a monarchy too, but at least we don't have nobles running around owning castles and huge estates. And, we fought the Nazis too, not with them or while giving them iron ore and ball bearings. And we didn't go around noting down what the average devastated family needed after the war so you could sell people essentials at a high markup. Really, fuck Sweden, bunch of Nazi loving bastards over there.
And we didn’t go around noting down what the average devastated family needed after the war so you could sell people essentials at a high markup.
Ikea mindset
I think the founder of IKEA was a supporter of the nazis, so yes.
Edit: yep, he funded militant Swedish nazi groups.
Big news, western corporation that sells wares at suspiciously low prices turns out to have a dubious past, more at 11.
As a Swede, bloody everyone is to blame. We all knew we needed to wear masks. We all knew we needed to stay home when we could.
But there ain't no one giving a shit. I work at arm length from critical covid patients, and a lot of my co workers wouldn't wear masks when off work, even though we're pretty much walking plague. I didn't even start seeing other people with masks on the bus with any regularity until just recently, because people blindly follow government regulations, even though we knew already those regulations weren't enough!
Only recently has it been actually allowed for us to wear masks at work, also when we ain't in close contact with covid patients.
And you wouldn't believe the bitching about it.
And of course immigrants are more affected like 70% of the other cleaners at work are immigrants, while loads of my friends clog up the group chat talking about "having to work from home" and they're like 90% Swedish born to Swedish parents.
Of course the poor bastards who slave in the bloody plague mines have more cases. It ain't rocket science.
As a Swede, bloody everyone is to blame.
Disagree, pushing personal responsibility for issues like this is pointless, your government is 95% to blame for trying to coast through this by doing basically nothing. It has generally been the case that where governments stepped in fast enough and locked down hard there has been little issue and many such counties have been able to return to some normality. Don't put too much blame on other people even if they are behaving irrationally. It is the governments job to control pandemic outbreaks not an individuals and in this case your government has failed. The blame is theirs.
I see what you mean. But I still feel that if the government does shit wrong, it's our duty to shame them, to force them to do whats right, to kick in doors if we have to.
It's wrong of me to be mad at everyone who thinks their night out is worth thousands of deaths, but I'm still pissed off, and I can't stop being pissed off.
I'll keep being pissed off until this shit's over, because the alternative is just being hella sad and going to bed drunk every night.
But you are right. Still pissed off tho. Part of it is that I ran into a bona-fide anti-maskers the other day. Still processing that. I used to think people were just lazy. Hoping that pretending shit was normal would make shit normal. And then I ran into this fucker just... Just being the worst.
Still kinda processing that.
But you're right. I'm just... I'm just so fucking tired all the fucking time.
It's an understandable reaction tbh, its not like you go outside and see your government sitting around in the street doing nothing, you see people doing stupid shit so it's very easy to fall into blaming that much more tangible reason.
Let's not lie to the Americans here, when you say the cleaners are 70% immigrants, it's a lot of Polaks and other Eastern Europeans. Americans have some lunacy driven race theory that poor immigrants have to mean they are non-European
Yeah. We had that problem when we were training up people for the covid wards. A lot of people felt they couldn't do it, because they had parents and grandparents living with them, and didn't want to bring it home with them.
WYeahe're better organized now, and weve got more people trained up, but for a while there, it was a bit hairy.
One of the problems with using masks was how bullish FHM was up until very recently about how they don't help. So the Swedish exceptionalism slams in and suddenly everyone else is just doing it wrong. It was only in the last month that FHM recommended masks if you're in crowded public transport.
And those recommendations only came into effect last week, at least in my region, and it's actually been very impactful, from <10% to >50% of people on the bus I'd say. Recommendations and rules work, the government trusts individuals to take responsibility way too much
Yeah. If there is one thing that should have made the corona response a slam dunk it is how trusting swedish people tend to be of government advice. If instead of spending about a year muddling through with half measures they'd gone in with decisive action thousands of deaths could have been avoided. Like, sure, if everyone followed social distance perfectly masks would not be necessary, but I don't see how people will ever be able to do that fully. They are an extra precaution and should be recommended as such. When coupled with how they didn't even want to test people for corona unless you were seriously ill at the start, there was nowhere to go other than disaster.
They didn't even discourage going to fucking ski resorts this winter. Ski resorts are a place where illness has never spread, as we all know. Might as well start having music festivals and expect people to stand 2,5 meters apart.
Absolutely. The hard rules don't seem to be enforced either. I'm pretty sure restaurants shouldn't have more than 4 people per table but where I work we've never done anything about it, I kinda want the company to get charged.
This quote is just gold:
When asked by a reporter a few weeks ago why the number of deaths in Sweden was six times higher than in Norway, Tegnell resorted to tautology: “Our number of deaths was high in the spring because it was high, but now it is not so high, even though it is high.”
:this-is-fine:
No politician or other responsible official wants to answer why there's such a difference per capita and it's incredibly frustrating
the Social Democratic government
:michael-laugh: I was sure it at least had to have been some Conservative ghouls' fault
In November alone there were 985 Covid deaths in Sweden (97 per million inhabitants), compared to 128 in Denmark (22 per million inhabitants), 69 in Norway (13 per million inhabitants), and 49 in Finland (10 per million inhabitants).
Honestly, what the fuck are they doing?????? I thought Sweden was supposed to be the more successful and put together one
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Also, 🇫🇮 🇫🇮 🇫🇮 we beat you at corona and we're gonna beat you at hockey
They basically are conservative ghouls. Their coalition agreement literally includes a clause that explicitly excludes the left party from participation in government.
Very cool
And here I thought they'd only agreed to exclude the Sverigedemokrater from the government. Such brave bipartisanship against extremism from both ends of the political spectrum, very inspiring.
At least our current SocDem government also has the Left Alliance in it, but maybe your leftest-most mainstream party is too based to be let anywhere near power
And here I thought they’d only agreed to exclude the Sverigedemokrater from the government. Such brave bipartisanship against extremism from both ends of the political spectrum, very inspiring.
You joke, but the talking point that the left party are extremists eqvivalent to the sweden democrats (who were openly nazi as lately as the 90s) has been getting more common lately. Which is insane given that they have been in and around government since they split from the succdems because they didn't support the bolsheviks in 1917.
They've never been in government as a coalition, but they've often had the role of making up enough votes for the succdems to be able to form a government. At least the new leader has started to call out the succdems on their bullshit more openly. Sjöstedt was way too cautious about his critisism.
At least the new leader has started to call out the succdems on their bullshit more openly. Sjöstedt was way too cautious about his critisism.
:this: somewhat optimistic but I'll still miss him and the party remains in the same dead-end position
If you're feeling too optimistic, she also said that she prefers Trump over Maduro, "as Trump was democratically elected". Then again, which politician today doesn't have shitty foreign policy.
(in Swedish) https://www.aftonbladet.se/kultur/a/7KPyav/sa-tystades-kritiken-mot-usa
yikes, I'm gonna hope she's uninformed on Venezuela. But yeah, it shouldn't be that hard to come up with reasonable leftisst foreign policy but politicians rarely care enough here (or most places probably)
What's the current Finnish government like? I'd heard good things, but was talking to a friend who said that the current PM essentially got the position because the old leader of the centre-left party was removed for being perceived as too close to the unions, which didn't sound great.
I thought it was more due to the fact that he had some kind of major heart-related health episode shortly after the election
Ah, okay. It's more than possible that my friend didn't know what they were talking about lol
I mean, the union thing might definitely also have played part, but I remember whatever happened to him was serious enough that he was in a coma for a while
Never underestimate the finnish teams ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory against the swedes.
And we just passed 10k deaths, or about 0,1% of the population :agony-yehaw:
we all know this but fuck how obvious can you make it that social democracy leads to fascism
Some time ago the today show on NBC was praising how “successful” they were at dealing with coronavirus lol
It's been bad here basically from the start, they're just jealous we haven't had a lockdown
