I see the term a lot, but I don't fully understand its context. Impossible to google due to libs coopting the language in unintelligible articles.

Thank you for the help.

    • BillyMays [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      And this is why Matt is trash. He has not informed himself on the struggles of other people outside the idea of class nor does he seem to care to do so.

      The fact the place still puts him on a thrown says a lot more about everyone else than him though.

      “Class reductionism isn’t an issue” Is class reductionism itself.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        how much of the 10-12 minutes did you listen to, because if that's your takeway it sounds like you quit after the first ten seconds

        EDIT: this sounded more snide than I wanted— I really just want to make sure you got past the first opening bit because he really expands a lot on it

        • BillyMays [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          10-12 minutes. That’s longer than Matt has ever spent on the struggles of marginalized people outside the scope of class.

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            untrue on its face even for people who just listened to the pod during the last year, much less the vlogs

            • BillyMays [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              No I’m not talking about the substantial amount of time Amber spends shitting on Jewish people.

                  • emizeko [they/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    why, you've done nothing to indicate you're coming to this in good faith whatsoever

                    "link me a fiteen minute clip to prove it's worth it to listen to a ten minute clip". come on, man

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I actually like Matt but when it comes to issues of class and race (i.e. class reductionism), I'm really not inclined to listen to anyone involved in a leftist podcast that had very little to say about the most significant protests we've had in decades this summer (where race was front and center), other than to say hey actually cops are working class, too.

        • BillyMays [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I don’t know what you’re saying here. Irony?

              • star_wraith [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                What I was saying is, when the BLM protests took place, Matt and the other Chapo hosts had very little to say. Virtually nothing. We pointed out on the old sub how odd it was pretty often. It was very disappointing. So it seems to me if someone is going to entirely check out from something like that, why should I care what that person has to say about other issues of class and race.

                • BillyMays [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  Yeah I totally agree. And if we don’t agree on issues of class and race. You’re about as good as a lib.

                  Even libs did a better job of pretending they cared.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        “Class reductionism isn’t an issue” Is class reductionism itself.

        When you definitely know what class reductionism is or is supposed to be.

      • kronkfresh [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Matt is fine. Some of his takes are straight garbage but lots of people have garbage takes on some issues and not others. So what if he's just a white Brooklynite talking about the white Brooklynite experience. Theres nothing wrong with that

        • BillyMays [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Defeatist attitudes really get people interested in learning.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        old conservative and religious beliefs that stuck around because they were convenient to capital.

        uhhh what do you think superstructure is?

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            sorry I see right after you say

            Maybe that’s what he means by superstructure of alienation idk.

            so I jumped the gun a bit in my comment. that is what he's getting at, this mutually reinforcing feedback loop that can only be changed a little at a time because these structures attempt to recreate each other