Jesus Christ why aren't we fighting back on this dipshit

  • gayhobbes [he/him]
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    Uh his little rant on trans people alone is disgusting, my dude

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      I have listened to him for so many hours and it is a mystery to me how you could think he's transphobic.

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          I have seen most of it live or in the VOD and I agree with most.

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              I have seen most of this clip live or in the VOD and I agree with most. It's heavily edited here of course and without context.

              • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                So when he talks about trans women who he claims are mentally ill disagreeing with him, that's totally cool with you?

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                  Many leftists, including me are suffering from depression, so do trans leftists of course.

                  • gayhobbes [he/him]
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                    He's guessing. He's sliming them as mentally ill because they disagree with him.

                    • kaka [he/him,they/them]
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                      Yeah he sounds kinda unhinged in that particular part of the video but let's be honest his ratio of good takes vs bad takes still is very good. He does so many hours of content there's going to be times where you aren't at your best. He often feels betrayed by people who say he isn't woke enough, he uses slurs and whatever while he daily deals with the worst humans in existence who literally want to gas him and other lefties for being gay.

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                        4 years ago

                        let’s be honest his ratio of good takes vs bad takes still is very good.

                        Is it?

                        He often feels betrayed by people who say he isn’t woke enough, he uses slurs and whatever

                        Uh.

                        he daily deals with the worst humans in existence who literally want to gas him and other lefties for being gay.

                        I dunno like, I seem to do a lot of that myself without accusing trans women of being mentally ill.

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                          Wait we already established that many trans people are mentally ill and there's nothing wrong with that. It would be even harder to deal with this shitty hellworld for me as well if I were trans.

                          Idk what are we trying to achieve with this discussion? It's fine if you don't like vaush and I even get it if he offends you, but please let's accept that he calls himself leftist and anarchist, he actually does it and has 200k subs and talks about leftism 24/7, does it well and changes many peoples minds. I would prefer if he never said the f-slur but he does and apparently it works for him.

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                            so i'm trans. there's nothing that pisses me off more than hearing a supposed 'leftist' and 'comrade' using the same smears against trans people that neocons use. it feels like youre a two-faced fascist prop. if liberals can get one small thing right, why cant you?

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                            We didn’t establish that at all. Vaush is using mental illness as a smear. There’s no reason to mention it and he doesn’t talk about it compassionately or factually. He’s using it to discredit people who apparently bother him.

                            He actually does what? What does he do? What’s he converting people if he bashes tankies and trans people while not understanding theory? What good is he actually doing in the world? It horrifies me that 200k people hear his garbage.

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                              He actually does what? What does he do?

                              He exposes a ton of normal people to leftist ideas and actually passionately fights for the rights of trans AND mentally ill people.

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                                What does he do to fight for their rights? And again, what ideas is he spreading if he says a bunch of trans people are the worst he runs across online?

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                                  this will be my last answer to this thread because like I said, it's pointless.

                                  He said this ONCE, while otherwise fighting for trans people.

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                                      idk stream and talk about trans rights for 5 hours per day to 100k viewers?

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                                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights

                                              https://www.aclu.org/issues/lgbt-rights/transgender-rights

                                              it's fine to ask if you don't know something, a quick search online would have helped :slightly smiling face:

                                              To me it's most important to change the minds of people, some people are seriously bigoted unfortunately

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                                                Those links are useless. What are the rights from a leftist point of view?

                                                Yes, including Vaush with his nasty take on trans people he doesn’t agree with.

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        dude, he literally just called all trans people mentally ill and a detriment to the left. he said the lgbt community should be expelled from the left and ignored. he's ok with the spread of child porn, and defended the use of the N word. hes a conservative in every way.