Incredible article.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    The title is misleading - this does not actually deal with the dissolution of America, it's about how thoroughly propagandized Americans are historically in the present. Good article, though the claim that Bin Laden's death was faked is spurious.

    • ChairmanXi [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      killing bin laden and not showing the body cause it would cause "discomfort", how can anyone believe he was murdered then and there? just :cia: things

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            But why would the US not be looking? What is the motive for faking his death? Why do you assume he died of natural causes but none of his supporters/followers rebuked the US's claims?

              • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                Seems much more likely the Americans just killed him rather than a vast conspiracy. It's not like they aren't capable or willing to assassinate people all over the world.

                  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    There's just no better explanation for the series of events that we do know took place and for the consistency of messaging from many opposed parties.

                    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      Occam's Razor says the raid did happen and they did kill bin Laden there and then dumped his body into the sea, exactly as the official story goes. The thing about conspiracies is that it takes just one person spilling the truth to ruin the whole thing, and given that the people that would've been involved here includes a massive list of people who actively despise America it seems unlikely there was some 'deal' they could reach with the American government to keep quiet.

                      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                        4 years ago

                        It's a little bit like saying the USSR actually found Hitler alive but faked his death and sent him into hiding. Not as extreme, but similar.

              • Flaps [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Idk man, I highly doubt al quada would cut a deal with the US to pretend bin laden was killed.

              • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                Because SEALs are a bunch of dipshits? I don't know, but that alone is not enough to outweigh the fact that no one in a position to know on either side is denying what happened, and there is no evidence whatsoever of him still alive anywhere. If he had died of another reason, then his people would be denying the US killed him. If he was still alive in hiding, the US would be hunting him. And it's not like he could make a deal with the US - they would just kill him anyways after they got what they wanted.

      • richietozier4 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        they were probably like:

        "Goddammit, this isn't Osama Bin Laden, this is cousin, Omasa Bid Laden!"

        "Fuck, the general wont be happy about this"

        "Not if he never learns about it"

        "Are you crazy? This means he's still out there!"

        "Look, do you want to spend another 10 years looking for him?"

        "..."