I'm going to post a couple links to sources for the next couple days to hopefully start a conversation in this space! These will fall in the area of Fat Studies and there's some norms you should be aware of:

  • "fat" is taken as a neutral descriptor, think of it as reclaiming the word.
  • "obese" arbitrarily medicalises fatness and Others fat people

I'm a cis man and I have (had) body image issues (in the past)

https://humanparts.medium.com/my-journey-toward-radical-body-positivity-3412796df8ff


I'm queer and fat

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yeefpijtl4s7orv/Flaunting%20Fat%20%E2%80%93%C2%A0Sex%20with%20the%20Lights%20On.pdf?dl=0


I'm queer and not fat

https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/fat-liberation-is-totally-queer


The others don't apply to me and/or I only have the energy/time to read one source

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/


:sankara-salute:

👉 Part 2 is up

👉 Part 3 is up

  • CoralMarks [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I just finished reading that second article you listed and this quote has me just baffled:

    In 1997, a panel of nine medical experts tapped by the National Institutes of Health voted to lower the BMI cutoff for overweight from 27 (28 for men) to 25. So, overnight, millions of Americans became overweight thanks to the NIH. The panel argued that the change brought BMI cutoffs into line with World Health Organization Criteria and that a ‘round’ number like 25 would be easier for people to remember. What they didn’t say, because they didn’t have to, is that lowering BMI cutoffs put more people into the overweight and obese categories, which in turn made more people eligible for treatment. More patients to treat means new markets and more money to be made from doctors and hospitals to pharmaceutical companies and yes, researchers.

    Lowering the BMI so that it would be easier for people to remember? Not taking into account the implications, wtf?

    And this is pretty big too IMO:

    Weight cycling has been associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular problems and higher mortality from all causes. Indeed some research indicates that weight cycling can account for all of the excess mortality risks for certain diseases associated with being in a larger body. One large-scale, long-term study followed more than 3,100 people over thirty-two years; it found weight cycling correlated with an increased risk of death from all causes and an increased risk of developing coronary heart disease, even after controlling for BMI and other potentially confounding factors such as preexisting illness and smoking. Not only that, but the relative risks attributable to weight cycling were comparable to the risks that typically get blamed on being in a larger body — suggesting that if all studies were to control for weight cycling, any excess risk from so-called ‘overweight’ or ‘obesity’ might disappear… Until all research can control for weight cycling and weight stigma, we can’t say that being at the higher end of the BMI spectrum causes any health conditions — even if higher weights are associated with these health conditions.

    I very much like his final sentences:

    As Virgie Tovar says about dieting in You Have the Right to Remain Fat, “You cannot learn to love yourself by walking a path paved by self-hatred.” This process is necessary for us to be able to liberate ourselves, and those who are most marginalized. There is no liberation without mutual liberation, so let’s all get fucking free.

    Thanks for posting these resources because it made me realize that I too have internalized a lot of these thought patterns, which I hadn't recognized before or didn't see as negative, so to speak.
    And that I still have a lot of learning to do on this topic, seems like a really cornerstone issue on the path towards liberation too, now that I'm thinking about it.

    Gonna read the others you listed as well to see some other perspectives as well, not just the one I can relate the easiest to.
    Sorry if this is a bit disjointed lol

    So, thanks again!

    :fidel-salute:

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'd say "weight cycling" is an inevitable result of being overweight unless you're being extremely strict about your diet.

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Why though? IMO if I eat regularly I usually stay within a 1-2 kg range, so I would assume that that wouldn't change much for someone weighing more, their baseline would just be higher, right?

    • carlin [he/him,comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Thanks for engaging and pasting some paragraphs that were eye-opening for you! I'll be posting some more pieces tomorrow :)