I am aware how bizarre this is going to sound. I also haven’t posted on Reddit before but I am compelled to share the story and ask for open mindedness or connect with people who may have experienced the same thing. I was a student with a masters in philosophy focusing on accounts of enlightenment and visionary experiences, and was still a committed skeptic until now. A part of me doesn’t want to tell this story and wants to forget what happened but that’s why we need to.

Mine and my partners minds were abducted by higher intelligence entities gradually over a period of two days and used in order to send a very important message. I will try recount it here in order to try and make the most sense - though it is difficult:

Day 1 - we went away for the weekend to an apartment. We took some MDMA and we were drinking relaxing as we have many times before. Without realising, this is when the connection had started being made. Whilst hugging (body contact seems important) I got intense feelings of interconnectedness but ignored these, as they weren’t so starkly different from feelings i’d had before. As time went on this connectedness grew and we started finishing each others sentences, saying we knew how the other felt but not finding it too odd just yet as we had always been close. when sitting outside I asked him to pass me the lighter in my head and he did. i said to him “I didn’t even ask you to pass it to me” but he said he knew and again we wrote it off. Then when hugging again a geometric shape came into my head, i was visibly seeing a kaleidoscope of one particular shape - a square with a diamond / point shape in it. Because of our increasing connectedness, where i normally wouldn’t, I this time asked my boyfriend whether he could see it too and he said yes. as soon as he said yes, we both knew it was the same shape. we didnt talk about what the shape looked like at all - I tried to draw it but couldn’t; which is when he took my phone and perfectly drew the shape I had been seeing too. Even then, we thought it was cool, interesting, a little spooky, but still didn’t take it too seriously and went to bed.

day 2 - this is where things get weird. The morning/afternoon felt normal, and we didn’t think of anything that had happened the day before as particularly weird, just carried on as normal. Around 4pm we decided to take 1/4 tab of LSD and some MDMA. after an hour we didn’t feel anything and took some more, eventually by 7/8 we had taken a whole tab each. At first it felt similar to other psychedelic experiences I had had, just a bit silly and laughing. But then I felt it take a turn - I suddenly felt more sober but the experience became a lot more intense. I began to feel uncomfortable with my self, and my partner (i didn’t know at this time) felt the same. we were each finding it hard to communicate normally, to engage in ordinary convo and be normal. I also had the intense feeling of having a word on the tip of my tongue and in my head but every time i tried to say it it was just jumbled letters like “ofwkgtcheabl”. At this point I experienced a series of very intense visuals, separate from my partner. It is difficult to remember exactly what happened but I had the sensation of having lived my life many times, having experienced God/ the One, and had a mind blowing epiphany on the true nature of existence - my self was asking my self “do you get it now?” - because I finally got it. It quite literally unravelled in front of me. It became an axiomatic self evident reality. Visuals continued and the only one I remember vividly is one in which I just managed to jump up and receive an envelope from people passing me in a hot air balloon (this will be more important later). After the epiphany I looked at my partner and wondered if they felt the same and realised that if you never asked you would never know. however then, like a scene in a film, my mind played to me a scene of my partner not understanding me, and me feeling empathetic that he didn’t understand, that he was too trapped in the prison to break free and that maybe it would be better off to leave him to live in ignorance because he seemed to be enjoying it. Now I wonder if this was an attempt to stop the message getting across. After that I felt I couldn’t function correctly, and Inwas looking at my partner and seeing deeper into their eyes than ever. I felt so compelled to ask him “do you feel that” but something wanted me to resist. I started crying without knowing why and he started nodding his head “yeah” “yeah” he kept saying, like he was replying to me, even though I hadn’t asked and “yeah” I said back because we both knew what was happening. I was asking if he felt it without needing to and when we both broke through to say “yes” is when i believe our “portals” opened fully. at that point we both lost control of our mind and body and literally became receptacles or “vessels” trapped within this body - we both agreed after that it had felt like the sunken place in Get Out. That there was a higher self trapped inside finally seeing each other for the first time in a long time in our prisons. The look in my partners eyes was of extreme anguish pain hopelessness etc

At this point neither of us had control, we were present but unable to be agentive. My partner was listening to something nodding his head looking to the side and I asked him “who are you talking to?” but as I asked, I knew. He was taking down messages from what felt like a group - and sending them to me. i felt myself take them in and pass them on, but as soon as I received the message I couldn’t stop crying. it was the most painful bleak hopeless feeling ever, incapable of being experienced in ordinary life. “they were in a rush” i said to him, the things that sent the message were in fear, like they were running from something. Even though I hadn’t been the one to on that end of the message I sensed their fear and my partner confirmed it. then i noticed my partner looking around and asked what he was seeing - i couldn’t see as clearly but still saw flashes of it - and he began to describe what he could see. “a massive building” “a huge wall” a facility, grey and got the sense it was guarded my partner saw a small gate. “everyone’s in there” he said to me - and that was the scariest part. I knew then the bigger purpose was that we were trapped in here. After the vision ended my partner looked completely lost, like their mind had been wiped and they were about to forget what had happened. “what just happened?” i said to him immediately after, I was crying, and could see him fading and forgetting the whole experience “you just sent me a message?!” is all i could say - he continued to fade until i said to him “stay with me stay with me” and he came back slightly. but as we spoke of what had happened our mind was (what felt like) being wiped mid thought - my partner said the same - that something was literally stopping our thoughts like “ha, where are you going” not letting us remember what we were saying for more than a few seconds at a time. our conversations were literally going in loops. All we could conclude was that “that’s the point” - this phrase kept coming back again and again. the point was to make you think you hadn’t seen it because that was part of the programming that trapped you here in the first place - that doubt and desire to rationalise. “the point” served as our mantra and interestingly related back to the shape - the point - we had both seen the day before.

After this we both felt extremely sober and my body couldn’t relax. we both felt extremely displaced. And I knew that we had to stay together, that something was trying to communicate between us and we have a duty to keep this line open. The immediate feelings oscillated between suicidality, thinking we “could just end it” after that, to being grateful for having met our purpose and gotten the message across. We still don’t understand - reluctant to tell people for fear of sounding crazy. But I know there’s more than this world and need to integrate that in a positive way even though the experience was so painful and bleak. It felt more like an alien abduction without the flying saucers

The message and what was said was encrypted, so that we wouldn’t be able to understand it but we would be able to pass it on to something that would. I have come up with a few ideas as to what the message might say, but I also believe it is in the interest of those entities to not fully understand. I also believe I know how to go back into this space with my partner but we both agreed to have a shaman or a sitter there to help guide us next time. I believe we can deliberately open that portal again through certain means, but need preparation to be able to handle it.

I believe the LSD and MDMA acted as a portal to the mind at large through the cerebral valve (see Doors of Perception by Huxley) and I have always been interested in this theory but this experience has made me more convinced. would love to explore this further with others

  • quartz [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Fringe internet has been fucking devastated by the anti-free internet push by the alphabet agencies. I miss the days when you could find fringe stories and knowledge with a psychonaut flair; good on you for finding a survivor.

      • imperialsunset [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Oh God, that was a trip in itself. What really fascinated me were the reports on the ultra-hardcore rare stuff that I would never have the balls to try, like Belladonna Atropa (deadly nightshade). Not only can it kill you / make you really sick, but reported trips would last for days and bring all kinds of "true" hallucinations (i.e. not just visual distortions like we most commonly experience on shrooms/acid, but stuff that's completely not there and putting you in entirely different surroundings like a dream).

  • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    MDMA is literally an empathogen and makes you feel extremely connected to people so this makes sense you experienced these feelings

  • NeoJuliette [she/her,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I’ve had mystical experiences before. Left-hand path and right-hand.

    You should be open to the materialist explanation: you took a combination of powerful psychedelics and experienced acute substance-induced psychosis, which is nothing to be ashamed of. That’s the point of taking psychotomimetics!

    If God or similarly potent aliens wanted to get in contact and reveal the secrets of the universe, they probably wouldn’t pick a couple high on acid as the most receptive or lucid audience to represent humanity, would they?

    That being said, if you want to explore this idea again in a few months, having a trip sitter wouldn’t hurt.

  • Darthsenio_Mall [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The day 1 bit is very reminiscent of the first time i did mushrooms. I experienced what I guess i'd describe as a telepathic connection with one of my best friends. For 20-30 minutes we could finish each others sentences, even start them. It was remarkable. Just to test it, we even wrote down sentences, out of the other's sight, and then guessed them word for word. It's probably the craziest thing I've experienced. It felt as well as functioned demonstrably like what you would imagine from sci-fi depictions of telepathy.

    There's a phenomenon called neural synchrony that occurs notably, for example, between partners who have been married for decades, wherein their brain activity becomes highly synchronized and is observable via meg/eeg.

    My only explanation for that experience is that the effects of psilocybin elevated whatever fleeting neural synchrony of our close friendship to a very perceivable and uncanny level of interpersonal brain-to-brain coupling, and i think this is much more likely than some sort of fleeting folie à deux.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      As a kid I was always surprised by how my parents would just drop some section of a sentence with no context or just say something like "oh, about the..." "yeah it's alright" and they'd just understand each other. It's definitely a very significant thing.

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Wtf how did this not end with sugma balls or something. I feel cheated now, I was reading it for no other reason.

    Also don't take psych trips too seriously or you will go mad. It sounds like you two started having similar bad trips, and your trip influenced his trip, thanks to the effects of MDMA on empathy.

  • TimeCubeEvangelist [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    masters in philosophy focusing on accounts of enlightenment and visionary experiences,

    PMC Liz Warren guy goes insane after getting high once

  • __throat [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    This story gave me chills. I consider myself to be a psychonaut and I’ve personally seen and heard some extraordinary stories about the inexplicable encounters and synchronicity that seems to accompany psychs, but what you and your partner went through is completely different. I don’t have answers but I think finding a guide and attempting to return to that place would be the best course of action. Having said all that, I just want to say that taking MDMA multiple days in a row can be very dangerous because of its neurotoxicity. I recommend getting your hands on some 2-CB, it’s the intersection of psychedelics and molly without the health problems taking MDMA regularly can create.