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    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      I love that emoji. There was also that one tweet of Shapiro or some other loser like him with a huge, unappetizing chunk of meat.

      Soy is feminine, but giving yourself colon cancer and ED to own the libs is very manly big-cool

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        I love all those ghouls doing "manly" things that they, for the most part, very clearly hate doing. Smoking giant cigars, drinking super intense Scotch, eating huge and unappetizing chunks of meat--whatever. It's all very funny because most of the time they're obviously just barely choking whatever it is down while screaming "does this bother you Rachel Maddow?! Are you triggered, college students?!" It's pretty obvious that it bothers them more than it bothers anyone else.

        • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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          Uh i think they actually do like it. I know i do. Scotch and meat are both delicious. Not into cigars though.

          Trying to say they don’t actually like it is just cope. Of course they do. The ones who try to use it as some political anti-woke virtue signaling are the most demented of them, but they still like the taste of the stuff etc.

          You can have a problem with them and also acknowledge that they like what they are doing at the same time. You undermine your argument by creating straw men in your mind to get mad at.

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        There's also a lot of hormones in meat, maybe more in red meats idk. There's also lots of added growth hormones and such in dairy and meat to increase production.

        I think there might be argument that carnist weirdos are actually doing some form of hormone therapy accidentally. 🤔

        I've also heard that high meat consumption can potentially increase aggressive behaviors. I'd imagine the hormones are involved in that.

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            • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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              Pretty sure unless they are hyper online weirdos they are completely unaware of how angry you are at them. They are like having business dinners and eating steaks and burgers and shit and have kids probably. They probably watch sports.

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                • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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                  No yall are. Stop projecting. I’m just trying to let you know your perspective is being skewed by being hyper online.

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                    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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                      Nope. Wrong. I care. I also think steak tastes good. Those are not mutually exclusive positions actually.

                      It sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself that steak does not taste good and anyone who says it does must be lying so that you don’t get tempted by it. Whatever you need to do for yourself is fine, but to publicly say you think such obviously false things just makes your arguments (which i agree with, i used to be vegan for years) look worse.

                      But anyway, not really worth continuing this conversation if you can’t see how it looks like you are just trying to convince yourself that beef tastes bad by saying that there is no way anyone actually thinks it tastes good and that they are just eating it to virtue signal anti-wokeness. People ate meat before wokeness was a thing, people around the world east it because they like it and it tastes good to most people. Start there.

                • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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                  Rolling coal is being an asshole on purpose, and i would bet the same percentage of idiots do that as think they are owning the libs by eating steak every day. Less than 1%. The stat is about the 12% who eat most of the beef, most of those people are not trying to do anything performative or political.

                  The internet is skewing your understanding of the prevalence of these things, and it’s embarrassing to see people on here create straw men arguments about all the beef eating being performative, thinking they’re making a great dunk when they’re just totally wrong.

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                    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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                      Talk about it all you want. But creating straw men to get mad about is pretty embarrassing, that’s all.

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        Uh actually they just like that shit and don’t care about anyone’s criticism of their lack of care for the planet etc.

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                Because they aren’t putting lots of effort into it.

                Your perspective is being skewed by a few hyper online reactionary weirdos. But there are millions of business man dads out there just playing golf eating steaks and watching football who never think about it one way or another. You’re losing perspective.

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    • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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      Or they just eat it because it tastes good and they subconsciously are trying to commit socially acceptable suicide through heart attack because they don’t care about living longer but just enjoying sensual pleasures until they croak, regardless of who they hurt in the process. That is how they are trained to be from birth.

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          • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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            No. It isn't. I've seen it, personally, from people in my real life, in person. My mom's boyfriend, one of my sister's partners, like half the people my dad invited to his wedding. Carnists love to brag about how much meat they eat. It absolutely is performative for quite a lot of them.

            I even have a theory as to why you haven't noticed it (which I admit I could be wrong about). Here's my theory: you're not vegan. Just like cis people often fail to recognize when they're performing gender, carnists often fail to realize that they eat performatively, because it's "normal" and "everyone" acts the same.

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                    • booty [he/him]
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                      She's literally been on an anti-vegan crusade for days now. Her comments keep getting removed but nothing changes and no one's threatening her with anything more serious than that. Really sucks.

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                        • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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                          I understand, though it's unavoidable for it to be an ideological issue now.

                          Its very true, with meat consumption it become some sort of weird treats based nationalism. Although i'd argue its mostly part of the ruling class or imperial core, and the non beneficiary defenders are the usual outcast exceptions.

                          The fact that carnist ideology is so widespread and aggressively entrenched makes an all-or-nothing approach only escalate the defensive reaction toward criticism. It's rough.

                          thats more or less my position, I see veganism as an ultimate goal, I just have a hard time with the getting there part. To be fairly honest my reaction has mostly been one of surprise, I have never seen any space online or off with any actual vegans. Like any with any ideology or understanding behind them. I've never seen the whole thing as something deserving of a split, just a means to an end, that being a healthy and happy society. If that makes sense.