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  • Sunn_Owns [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Sam Seder on MR today brought up Warren's ideology (pro-capitalist) and Jamie's ideology (communism) and talked about which is the correct way. He poo-pooed Warren without actually understanding anything about communism, markets, and capitalism, but it just goes to show you that even libs like Seder are deep down having regrets about voting Biden.

    My lib fam are increasingly dummed out over Biden. A family friend former libertarian is openly talking about decommidifying certain industries.

    These people are seeing the contradictions heighten and realizing that the problem isn't Biden, but the system, but they can't quite put it into words. I'm glad that people are seeing Biden as a just a cut out for the ills of capitalism. The more people radicalized the better.

    • makotech222 [he/him]A
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      4 years ago

      Happen to have a clip of that? I stopped watching MR after MB died because Sam went full lib.

        • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I am now looking at the Hello Tushy website and holy shit I do not enjoy their marketing.

          One example:

          Product Features

          • Optimized pressure + angle control for a targeted spray on your pooper

          ...

          • A good stand-in for your significant other

          Haha silly words like "pooper" and a nontraditional sex reference, this is a company I can relate to!

      • abdul [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Eh. The real election was the primaries. In the general election, I can’t fault people in swing states for voting against trump. Everyone else should have protested or voted green imo.

      • GrandAyatollaLenin [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I still don't think this is a fair comparison and it's based on the deliberate ignorance of what "harm reduction" means. The worst things Biden has done are things Trump would have done anyways. This is literally the same point Trump was at with Iran. Then Biden did some good, like delisting the Houthis, cutting operational support for Saudi bombing raids...

        No one was saying Biden was perfect, but no one's presented any evidence yet that he's worse than Trump.

        • Sunn_Owns [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          All true but the point of any political action should be in service to an ideological goal or endpoint. Leftists voting for Biden as a harm reduction candidate only further entrenches liberal political power. It does nothing to build leftist power.

          • GrandAyatollaLenin [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Biden winning entrenches Liberal political power. Trump winning entrenches Liberal political power, but with slightly worse policies and more people killed.

            • Sunn_Owns [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I agree. My point is at some point harm reduction has to be replaced by an actual political project. There's a historical precedent for an organized base punishing a party by not voting for a candidate, and the party moving in the base's direction. Young Republicans did just that in 1962 in California.

              The ideological change was already underway in the Republican Party, but the Young Republicans organized and showed a glimpse of the future. Look at r/politics comments - it's full of Dem bashing. Apathy is kicking in already. The moment is ripe for an organized stand of some kind against the corporate Dems. Really wish Sanders had done so. It might have meant Trump again, but it would also force the party to actually face repercussions for moving right.

  • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you voted Biden and expected better than this, you probably started caring about politics during the Trump years. Full disclosure, I voted Biden because I live in a swing state and hell $1400 is better than nothing. But if you were expecting like, idk, the fucking Green New Deal or something I don't know what to tell you.

    • abdul [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Christ that’s disappointing. I thought they were cool. At least they voted correctly in the primaries..

    • abdul [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      I took a page out of Matt’s book and finally voted for hilary. She’s electable if you vote for her!

  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    i voted for biden to get the fucking liberals I'm friends with to shut the fuck up about it, not because I think electoralism will lead to any positive change in this goddamn country