Reminds me of an episode of Digimon where Joe (I think) says something like "I don't like eating on an empty stomach." But I think that was supposed to be an obviously bad excuse for not eating something he didn't want to try rather than serious statement, but I was never certain...
I’m terrified by the idea of trying to hormonally transition, mostly because I have a very high sex drive and am very attached to it.
Are you in the US? If so, I think a lot of that is the spiro, rather than the E itself. Unfortunately the US doesn't approve of other medicines for use as an anti-androgens. But you could try monotherapy as a way to avoid that. My libido has generally been a nuisance, so I specifically wanted spiro, but my doctor just asked if I wanted it or not. Not sure if high sex drive-> harder for monotherapy to work though
You could also try to see if insurance will pay for things like laser (I think some do?). I'm not sure how common it is, so I wouldn't get your hopes up unless you are willing to move somewhere that requires coverage.
I often avoided using anime girl pfp by using crossover anime pics with things like guys dressed as magical girls. Obviously would have prefer just using anime girls instead, but didn't think that was something I should do.
I'm sure there's no reason I should have thought more about why I wanted that.
Cis people are oblivious. I’ve shaved my arms multiple times, and nobody has noticed.
Did have one time I went to work with one hand painted pink several months ago. Only saw a couple people, but neither said anything. Nor did anyone say anything about my arms being saved that week IIRC. One person did mention my beard being gone though. I still worry about people saying something, so I barely even trim my arms. OTOH, after I trimmed my chest hair, my step-mom asked me about it but that might just be because she already suspected I am trans and was probably trying to ask about that indirectly.
Also, who knows how many people notice stuff like that and just don't say anything.
NB is a big umbrella with a lot of people who really don't want to be put into boxes (not that there aren't lots of binary people also in that camp: people shouldn't try to shove each other into narrow boxes regardless). I think the autistic meme that could be adapted to NBs is "if you've met an NB, you've met one NB."
OTOH, if using the label leads to making assumptions about you that you don't want, it makes sense to avoid it. Labels should be for your benefit, not detriment.
I've seen some define demi to mean mostly man and partly something else and libramasc to mean mostly agender but partly man. But I think you could also distinguish them as both just meaning partly man and libra specifically implying the other part is agender while demi just leaves it open to what the other part(s) is(are)?
Still all under the NB umbrella. And if the other parts of demi include agender, then bother can be under the agender umbrella as well.
For a long time, I just assumed by discomfort with a male identity was just a dislike of toxic masculinity in particular. So, I said things like "I don't identify as a man, but I'm technically cis." Even when I acknowledged I wasn't cis, I still didn't consider myself trans because, at the time, I had no intentions of transitioning in any way.
Anyways, presentation isn't gender, there is no minimum amount of suffering required to be trans, you don't need any sort of medical treatment to be trans, and trans isn't short for transition. If you don't jive with your agab, then you're free to use the label.
Funnily, our mom seemed to think my brother was questioning his gender when he brought up the topic of gender with her (because I had come out to him) and she say things like "See Bob? He's a good man. You don't have to be like those other bad examples of men to be one" to him to try to convince him that he was cis.
Not trying to tell you how you should identify though. None of my business.
Cis men should have their gender dysphoria treated instead of trying to distract themselves with vanity projects like oversized vehicles. Just because you like their body the way it is doesn't mean you can dictate what they should want. Nothing wrong with a small penis, but that doesn't mean everyone has to want that.
Alternatively, imagine saying this about another body part on another gender.
Trans women eggs should probably realize they're eggs and transition (if that's feasible where they are and if not, go to somewhere where it is feasible) rather than having dysphoria beards, working out stereotypically masculine muscles groups, and acting hypermasculine to cover-up for their insecurities.
Like, one cannot ungreen nipples with certain pills, or ungreen facial hair & voice with different pills. Right?
Correct. Other methods are needed to fix those things.
Not thinking so much of undoing what has been done by such pill, but more so the effects the first time around (I.e. not to ungreen something that has been greened with pills, but ungreen something that was already green naturally)
Doesn't really matter either way (although surgical changes of A -> B -> A are a lot harder than A->B or B->A).
Removing anti-green skin organs? Isn’t green skin an effect of hormones, which said pills play on? Unless you’re talking about something else here (or I’m uninformed, which is very possible). On a similar note, there’s one pill to “remove” purple skin and one pill for getting green skin, no? Pretty sure I’ve heard of something like that somewhere (or not. Idk.)
Gonna just break the metaphor here: If you have testes (or ovaries I assume) removed and don't take any sort of supplemental hormones, it can have a negative impacts on bone density long-term.
On a similar note, there’s one pill to “remove” purple skin and one pill for getting green skin, no? Pretty sure I’ve heard of something like that somewhere (or not. Idk.)
Yeah. Two different regimes. But the meme seems intentionally vague about what green skin is a metaphor for, so I tried to make my comment apply both ways >.<
Guess it’d be easier to find a “green skin 101” and properly learn stuff, but I reckon I’d just be inundated with “chroma key 101” instead. Still, am always interested in learning more (usually in video format, cause I’m lazy to read sometimes). I mean, I already have a trans creator (who talks trans stuff) on my video feed. Maybe it’s a matter of searching for the older content to learn more.
Also, not using a poorly defined metaphor to talk about it would help be more clear about things. I don't have any videos to suggest unfortunately.
Anyway, thanks for the information and for your time!
No worries.
Stubbed my toe and accidentally helped like a dog. Guess I'm transitioning to a dog. Already think being called a "bitch" is nice, so I guess that's fine.
I think most green skin will change back to normal after months of no longer taking it, but there are certain parts are permanent. Once your nipples turn green, you'd have to replace you nipples to no longer have green nipples. Or if you are taking the kind that gives you green facial hair, you'll need laser to get rid of that and the green voice also permanent.
Forgetting your green pills occasionally would probably just slow the process down. As long as you aren't forgetting them like 90% of the time after having your anti-green skin organs removed, it shouldn't be a big deal if you forget sometimes. Just might look a little less green, like some naturally green elderly people whose natural green-skin production has slowed.
Does that mean the director thinks I need to start drinking alcohol?
I didn't want to be a minority at small family gatherings, so I had to become LGBT somehow.
Congrats on your discovery!
I’ve identified as non-binary without a microlabel for a long time
Have you considered micromicrolabels?
I always felt like my feelings on gender as a concept made me a weirdo
I think I just assumed others were the weird ones for caring about gender as much as some seemed to, but I think I also just underestimated how much others actually cared about it (and weren't just making fun of it... sorry to anyone I may have laughed at thinking you were making a joke).
For some reason, I had the essentialist mindset that “Going by any and all pronouns is the opposite of being agender!” that I think messed with my view of me being agender
Always fun to learn you dismissed an identity, at least in part, because you just had some minor misconceptions. Granted, the group of people who use the agender label are still a very diverse group and it is also a lesser-known identity so it is easy to have misconceptions.
I suspect "agender" one of the more underrepresented identities relative to how many people fit the label. A lot of people probably think trans = strong connection to gender and therefore dismiss the notion they might actually fit under the umbrella (even a lot of agender people dismiss the label of trans because it feels too connected to gender). I kinda suspect my mom may fit within the agender but has no clue, which leads to some of her transphobia (not caring about other's pronouns because she doesn't care about her owns, having an overly medicalist view of gender).
Made it past 3T and passed Apple. Still second to MS.
My plan so far is just to go forward with HRT, body hair removal, and growing my hair out, until I can’t hide it anymore, then I can just be like, “Welp. Guess I’m a girl now lol” but not sure how well this would work in practice.
I think that's sorta my plan for work except the planning to be a girl. Started with growing out hair and haven't started body hair removal yet (too busy during the summer). Didn't really worry about the logistics of it though. Started HRT mid-April and sorta hoped I wouldn't have any issues hiding it through the summer for work (while simultaneously wanting the changes to happen faster).
The not being out to my parents yet thing led to the slightly awkward situation of swimming topless at my parents a couple weeks ago and being asked by my stepmom again if I'm trans* while we're swimming because of the conversation (pretty sure there were not noticeable changes at that time so I don't think that was actually related). Topless estrogenated bodies should be normal anyways though.
*technically she didn't use the word, but it was implied.
No worries and glad to clear that up. I'm sometimes am bad at communicating intentions, so I'd rather people ask questions if its unclear. Or at least complain, so I know I'm doing something to bother them.
The last comment I want to speak on was a comment that made me uncomfortable, where a user chimed in saying that they don’t have a sense of “wanting” to pass, but they still pass for safety reasons.
This almost vaguely seems like it might be referencing my comment? At least, your comments here seem similar to your response to my comment on that thread. I was just mentioning there's conflicting interests that occupy at least some of my brain-space, but I don't put try to pass as a binary woman and I definitely don't pass as one (only recently even started HRT and I certainly am not naturally androgynous or fem). Well, I'm still boymoding, sorta*, so I guess I try to pass as a cis guy at work despite considering myself transfem, but it is tolerable. Not sure if that counts?
*I was gonna say at least no one has said anything yet, but I forgot a while ago, one person/group seemed to maybe suspect something - they asked me something like if I was a "mister or miss" and called me a "bitch" I think in consecutive encounters.
I hope they weren’t trying to give advice because I simply cannot go about my gender this way.
I wasn't. I never meant to imply others should try to pass as anything. I find how common it is for people to want to pass confusing. Trying to pass often means people try putting themselves in boxes they don't necessarily fit, whether they're cis or binary trans or non-binary trans, so I don't think this is even necessarily a NB-exclusive problem.
Earlier today, I was listening to a song called Nvr Pass, which I think is by a binary trans woman (but I don't know much about the singer, so I could be wrong - maybe she's an NB woman) that about how trying to fit in the pink box is almost just as bad as never coming out of the original box and that she would never try to fit into that box. Anyways, I was thinking about how when I turned on this song for my brother for the first time, I describe it as a "happy song", because I saw it as a celebration of being oneself despite societal pressures to conform, but he saw it as a sad song for some reason (but maybe its because he sucks at listening to lyrics and only actually listened to the chorus of "I'll never pass"). I guess the fact that people have to deal with the brainworms at all, even if they ultimately dismiss them as bad, is sad, but doesn't seem like a reason to call a song about ignoring them sad.
I don't have an intrinsic desire to pass as some sort of cis person, but I do have external motivators like discriminating or people thinking I dressed a certain way because it's seen an a joke (just confusing people about my gender would perhaps be enough to fix that tho?). I'd rather society not be discriminatory or have gendered expectations at all, but that's a lot harder to achieve.
I don't think any clothing or no clothing is inappropriate around children. It's stupid that some people have an issue with that kind of thing. Also "think about the optics" seems like concern trolling. So... Basically would just be worried about safety, laws, and how it would affect socializing with people you want to socialize with. Seems like something a lot of people with bad opinions would think is inappropriate, but bad opinions have no shortage.
Never been to a pride event. Have you been to this event in previous years (assuming it's an annual thing)? If you're not sure, could you just prepare for the option of that and decide after you arrive?