Yeah church is explicitly supposed to be a community of believers. If you can't know the people there with you it doesn't fit the Bible's requirement for a church
Religion and a communist society are compatible but religion won't serve basically any of the functions it does now in terms of organizing people into communities and serving as social networks.
Religion and Marxism are pretty much ideologically incompatible though. Like, Marx and Lenin and several other theoryheads have all pointed out the stark ideological contradictions several times. Yeah I know liberation theology, but bluntly liberation theology in practice doesn't actually fulfill the social mechanisms religions fill in our society, and its not like there are fifty million hardcore liberation theologians out there that are actually serving as a counterweight against religious reaction in practice.
but religion won’t serve basically any of the functions it does now in terms of organizing people into communities and serving as social networks.
I strongly push back on this. Religious ritual and practice is a process of social creation for communities all over the globe and has been as far as we can tell. There's a good reason people tie together their sense of meaning in the world and their social networks.
Nah dude, religious rituals and the hierarchy associated with them is as far as we can tell a post-neolithic invention. Humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years without priests telling them how God wants them to act, whether ritually or in social settings, and we could go the next hundred thousand years without them and it wouldn't be a problem.
You're crossing some lines here between worship of a deity, priesthood as a social role, and religious rituals themselves, all of which can be found very independently of each other. The existence of religious rituals does not necessarily imply priests, gods, or hierarchies.
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Religious leftists are fine, Christians are too. Televangelists aren't Christian, they're heretics who get the :gulag:
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Did you actually read the post though
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If you'll put no effort into making people understand, how can you complain that they won't?
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Yeah church is explicitly supposed to be a community of believers. If you can't know the people there with you it doesn't fit the Bible's requirement for a church
Religion and a communist society are compatible but religion won't serve basically any of the functions it does now in terms of organizing people into communities and serving as social networks.
Religion and Marxism are pretty much ideologically incompatible though. Like, Marx and Lenin and several other theoryheads have all pointed out the stark ideological contradictions several times. Yeah I know liberation theology, but bluntly liberation theology in practice doesn't actually fulfill the social mechanisms religions fill in our society, and its not like there are fifty million hardcore liberation theologians out there that are actually serving as a counterweight against religious reaction in practice.
I strongly push back on this. Religious ritual and practice is a process of social creation for communities all over the globe and has been as far as we can tell. There's a good reason people tie together their sense of meaning in the world and their social networks.
Nah dude, religious rituals and the hierarchy associated with them is as far as we can tell a post-neolithic invention. Humans existed for hundreds of thousands of years without priests telling them how God wants them to act, whether ritually or in social settings, and we could go the next hundred thousand years without them and it wouldn't be a problem.
You mean back before the agricultural revolution and people started living in societies. I think ritualised religious social groups will be fine
You're crossing some lines here between worship of a deity, priesthood as a social role, and religious rituals themselves, all of which can be found very independently of each other. The existence of religious rituals does not necessarily imply priests, gods, or hierarchies.