For my buddy it's the same story, he was a debate-bro libertarian who picked up The Conquest of Bread to try to debunk it, ended up an-com by the end of it and started reading Tiqqun.
I should give that one a try. I've been catching up on ML stuff after a lifetime of being intentionally steered away from it by academia. I took a class that had me read some heterodox economists throughout history, Veblen and Marx included. The point was to show where different theories had "gone wrong," but I was like, "wait that kinda makes sense especially given recent events, maybe I should dig a little deeper and figure out why they're so discredited on a deeper level. No way they'd just handwave away this stuff, right?"
Welp, turns out there's a reason they only ever offer strawman representations of these figures. They want students to feel confident in dismissing things out of hand and never dig deeper. One of those, "the best lies contain a bit of truth" type deals.
Maybe we can get them so far deep into pretending it they stop being chuds.
Right wingers reading theory just to dunk on leftists would be hilarious.
Debate nerds steelmanning communism to argue against it, but accidentally becoming commies, would be a fun bit
This is embarrassingly close to how I became a communist.
Hell yeah :debatebro-r:
For my buddy it's the same story, he was a debate-bro libertarian who picked up The Conquest of Bread to try to debunk it, ended up an-com by the end of it and started reading Tiqqun.
I should give that one a try. I've been catching up on ML stuff after a lifetime of being intentionally steered away from it by academia. I took a class that had me read some heterodox economists throughout history, Veblen and Marx included. The point was to show where different theories had "gone wrong," but I was like, "wait that kinda makes sense especially given recent events, maybe I should dig a little deeper and figure out why they're so discredited on a deeper level. No way they'd just handwave away this stuff, right?"
Welp, turns out there's a reason they only ever offer strawman representations of these figures. They want students to feel confident in dismissing things out of hand and never dig deeper. One of those, "the best lies contain a bit of truth" type deals.
I could talk more about Tiqqun/the Invisible Committee, but it would possibly narrow me down enough to doxx.
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