like i get its a good game but cmon! its not that good. game is a buggy mess, it has proto-microtransactions (courier's stash), you cant play after the end, the endings are a literal political compass meme, and fallout fans are half chuds.

  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
    ·
    4 years ago

    The game really tried to sell this idea that the NCR is weak but it really doesn’t hold. They have the most modern military in the wastes, if they got their shit together they could hold the Mojave no problem. The game just writes the leaders of the NCR as the most incompetent dumb fucks as possible to try and explain away why an army with fucking artillery can’t take on some ripped dudes with spears.

    I think it's supposed to be an issue of logistics infrastructure and sheer numbers. Like the NCR has weapons manufacturing up and running and a proper (if small) military, but the Mojave is a long way from their bases of industry and agriculture, the rail line they were building got sabotaged, and caravans are being harried by the tribes they've been trying to genocide and/or subjugate. Meanwhile the legion has sheer numbers that aren't represented well in-game due to engine limitations, and they have an easier time keeping their army supplied because it doesn't need industrially manufactured parts and they have relatively safe roads back to their breadbasket and heartlands thanks to being a hyper-militarized death-cult that assimilates or enslaves everyone they run over.

    The NCR is portrayed as winning every pitched battle on account of having modern firearms, but they lack the resources and manpower to fully control the territory so they're being constantly bled by Legion raiders and having their hegemony undermined by their inability to protect the locals from the Legion.

    really all their trade will be dominated by the NCR meaning they’re effectively blockaded.

    I think the independent path there mostly relied on the NCR needing the electricity from Hoover Dam, and so an independent Vegas could retain autonomy for its people while still having enough of an upper hand to keep trade open with the NCR. It doesn't need to be unassailable, it just needs to be too much trouble to be worth invading and too valuable to not trade with.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
        ·
        4 years ago

        It’s also important to note the Legion aren’t AnPrims who hate guns,

        I thought there was a bit in the lore about them actively rejecting firearms as part of their martial death cult ideology. I think Honest Hearts goes into that, where the other courier tricked a tribe into using a cache of firearms to wipe out another tribe that was resisting the Legion, despite knowing that this would result in the Legion rejecting and enslaving or exterminating the tribe he manipulated?

      • aynranddouchebag [none/use name]
        hexagon
        ·
        4 years ago

        where did they get all the used sports equipment then? surely the number of guns in modern day america outnumbers the number of football helmets. not even joking here, the numbers just dont add up.

    • aynranddouchebag [none/use name]
      hexagon
      ·
      4 years ago

      i dont like the independence ending because yesman seems like he's gonna go skynet on the west coast, like i find kicking out all the imperialist factions to be ideal but I don't think letting yesman reprogram itself to be more assertive to be a good idea. i would of loved a followers of the apocalypse ending, they are the only people in the entire game that seem to not be drug addicted, history larping, jerkoffs. hell a lot of the factions should of gotten their own ending if the legion got one, brotherhood, enclave, powdergangers, khans, and boomers could of gotten their own endings and then the game would be less of a political compass the game and more dnd alignment the game. and for everyone saying i hate new vegas, i dont, it was goty for the year it was relased and maybe a few after but i just got done playing it and i can confidently say i am never going to pick it up again.

      • RION [she/her]
        ·
        4 years ago

        FWIW Josh Sawyer has confirmed that "more assertive" means not blindly obeying the first person who gives him an order when the Courier isn't looking. That's the authorial intent, at least.