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I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done.
The documents record how prison staff engaged in role play during last year’s tests. Guards acted out as inmates who resisted going to their death, screaming: “This is murder”, “I’m innocent”, “You’re putting me down like an animal”, and “This is against everything America stands for”.
can't wait to skewer these pigs
I hope the ancient beast who lives in Arizona's highest mountain breaks out of it and just goes hogwild
It's in New Mexico, not Arizona, but it's pretty easy to imagine something like that living here.
Almost like the usa is the 4th reich or something ...
Robert Dunham, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center, said: “You have to wonder what Arizona was thinking in believing that in 2021 it is acceptable to execute people in a gas chamber with cyanide gas. Did they have anybody study the history of the Holocaust?
Yes they did, that was the point.
some fucking 4chan Nazi turned correctional officer probably made this decision because he thought it was funny, that's the caliber of "law enforcement" these days
The next question should be, what exactly is better about injections?
Injections are more humane to the perpetrators and makes it easier for them to look in the mirror and pretend they're doing the right thing, by hiding their murderous sadism under a veil of medical calmness.
Is finding a colored non-toxic gas really that difficult?
Jesus these people deserve a good leak.
FFS a fog machine at Walmart costs like $100.
That is how they tested the gas chambers at my local animal shelter before they went nokill.
Just... like... a spray bottle with soapy water should be fine. Don't need to do the whole "crypt keeper" thing.
Yeah, they're sadists. Putting aside the fact the death penalty should be abolished entirely, if you really want to do it just use a nitrogen canister and a mask on the condemned for fuck's sake.
Even if they wanted to use less cruel gas they could use carbon monoxide. It's cheaper than cyanide, so the cruelty must be the point.
Can you literally just kill people on death row any way you like in the states?
No cruel and unusual punishment allowed. But if you constantly execute people in a cruel way, it's only cruel, not cruel and unusual :think-about-it:
love that running for governor on the base of exectuing people via wacky means would be the best way to stop any of them
"I promise that if I'm elected governor - I will institute a policy of execution involving a dunk tank that starts a Rube Goldberg machine that eventually starts a draw-n'-quartered monster truck pull..."
Also love that this proposal would fit the "cruel" part and also if you do it enough it won't fit the unusual part since that's just how you do it.
Ever since I was a little kid I've been mystified why so many Americans treat judges (and especially justices) like august figures who are uniquely gifted to interpret the law like high priests of the temple did when they told the masses what god wanted.
Judges (and justices in particular) are just opinionated assholes in black robes.
Phony contrition is definitely a must in court. And the personality of the judge infects everything.
If I was on trial for something serious - I would only hire a lawyer who I felt really understood the importance of my questions like "What kind of person is the judge?" Any lawyer who thinks it's "just the facts" is a fool. Sure, the facts are important. But so is the goddamned judge.
The typical person isn't even aware they view judges as some sort of high priests of the temple for law. Maybe it's even a global thing.
The death penalty is a great example of how arbitrary American law can be. The hows and whys of a particular death penalty case are greatly determined by who the judges (and justices) are who review it...
Summaries of Key Supreme Court Cases Related to the Death Penalty
Furman v. Georgia , 408 U.S. 238 (1972): The application of the death penalty is unconstitutional.
Gregg v. Georgia , 428 U.S. 153 (1976): The death penalty is constitutional.
And...
Supreme Court won't block execution of man who fears excruciating death
May 24, 2021
Ernest Johnson sought death by firing squad, saying his brain damage leaves him at risk of severe and painful seizures if he's executed by lethal injection.
The Supreme Court now has six Catholic fundie justices who were put on the court by the Federalist Society. In the coming decades there are going to an insanely high number of "surprising" decisions unless Biden packs the court to stop the madness. But Biden won't. He's a fucking lib.
Scalia didn't get the memo.
I once watched a Youtube vid by a guy with a Southern accent who was Taser salesman: "The best thing I think is great about a Taser is that you don't have to kill the person. I mean, there's plenta times people need killin'." That's actually what he said. I transcribed it. The last sentence reminds me of all the ghouls like Scalia.
On Scalia's Wikipedia page he rails time and again for the death penalty to be applied to younger and younger teenagers 'cause people needed killin'. Plus there's this Scalia gem...
In 2002, in Atkins v. Virginia, the Court ruled the death penalty unconstitutional as applied to the mentally removed. Scalia dissented, stating that it would not have been considered cruel or unusual to execute the mildly mentally removed at the time of the 1791 adoption of the Bill of Rights and that the Court had failed to show that a national consensus had formed against the practice.
The author is the senior apologist at Catholic Answers...
Jimmy Akin is an internationally known author and speaker. As the senior apologist at Catholic Answers, he has more than twenty-five years of experience defending and explaining the Faith.
Misread this the first time and thought it said “Amazon Department of Corrections refurbishes Gas Chambers”
But it won't be the last time that phrase will be uttered :lord-bezos-amused:
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I misread your reply the first time and thought it said
Misread this the first time and thought it said “Arizona Department of Corrections refurbishes Gas Chambers”
(Cuz it’s so beyond fucked it couldn’t really say that, and no, not implying the other methods are better :sadness-abysmal: )
Why the fuck are they using cyanide? Cyanide gas is a horribly painful way to die. If they HAVE to use gas (which they shouldn't, they shouldn't even have a death penalty), they should use carbon monoxide. It's far cheaper, and painless to boot. Looks like the cruelty is the point.
Maybe? Idk about the effects of helium beyond trapping it in the vocal chords to make silly sounds. Unfortunately, helium is expensive AF and we're running out of it. Nitrogen on the other hand is the most abundant diatomic molecule in our atmosphere.
Interesting. Any idea why? My guess would be that maybe you need less for it to work or it's more pleasant than nitrogen?
Maybe it’s more about accessibility - helium can be purchased at party shops in US
Emoji request: Baseball bat with "YOU'RE FUCKED" etched onto it
buried in Brailsford's skull
