yes honey

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    Of course they did. They saw a threat to soviet power, so they supported it. That doesn't make the revolution in Hungary any less genuine. There's nothing more idealistic (in the colloquial sense) than communism, and yet when folks demand to realize the full promise of communism, some of you folks want to play realpolitik.

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      “Of course they did. They saw a threat to Morales' power, so they supported it. That doesn't make Añez's government any less genuine.”

      eat my shorts

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        The uprising in Hungary was largely communist. That's the difference.

        Edit: the above comment was originally about allende and Pinochet, but was edited

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          the rebels drew x on the doors of Jewish people in preparation for pogroms. Hungary was fascist af, they were just fighting with the Nazis like 10 years ago. Khrushchev was right to send in the tanks.

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            Oh, that's important information, can you point me towards more details?

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              There was large participation in the revolution by Hungarian Jews on the side of communist party. Prominent Hungarian communists, including Lukacs (argubly the greatest Leninist philosopher of all time) were in support of the revolution on the side of the Hungarian Communist Party. Labeling the actions of fascist coopters of the revolution as the entirety of the rebels is extremely disingenuous.

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              Can't find a ton of English sources and I can't read Hungarian but here is something from Canadian historian Peter I. Hidas.

              Canada and the Hungarian Jewish Refugees 1956-1957

              In 1956 Jews fought on both sides of the barricades. Jewish intellectuals again dreamt that the days of complete assimilation had arrived but the Jewish masses knew better. It was hard to tell that an AVO man was hanged because he was a secret policeman or because he was a Jew. A smattering of anti-Semitic incidents in the countryside gave the ultimate incentive for emigration. A number of anti-Jewish attrocities were committed outside of Budapest.(13) At Tápiószentgyörgy the patients at the Jewish Old Age Home were assaulted on October 25. Three Jews were murdered at Miskolc. At Tarcal three Jews were attacked with knives. On October 25 at Mezökövesd and Mezönyárad many Jews were beaten while at Hajdunánás some were robbed and tortured. According to a Hungarian Jewish refugee who later settled in Canada, at Hajdunánás a Jew barely escaped through the roof of his house, chased by a hostile group, while in in Debrecen there was in existence a list of Jews identifying individual to be killed.(14) At the village of Tárpa demonstrators demanded the hanging of the three Jewish residents of their community. Eventually, they were "only" beaten.(15) At Mátészalka, where the blood-libel was alive and well even after the Holocaust, a series of anti-Semitic demonstrations took place. The local Jews were forced to hide from the lynch mob. (16) György Marosán, Minister of State in the Kádár Government at his December 18, 1956 press conference charged that "pogroms" had taken place in the villages of Vámospercs-Nyíradony, Hajdunánás, Balkány, Marikocs and Nyirbátor.(17)