• Great_Leader_Is_Dead
    hexagon
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    1 year ago

    The US is not involved in this conflict yet and I would opposed their involvement if they did

    • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      The US is not involved in this conflict

      Are you sure? What is exxonmobil again? Who has influence in the International Court of Justice?

      America is the one aggressing on Venezuela by using their puppet government in Guyana to encircle them and take the disputed territory unilaterally.

        • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          Why does that matter? Should countries just lay down and let America strangle them "non-militarily/indirectly" until they're dead?

          • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            Another reason I'm not happy about this is I'm not confident Venezuela can win this, if it gets embroiled in this conflict it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire cuz now they can just snuff out Venezuela instead of trying to chip away at them via more subtle means. That's why, even if I don't agree with Maduro's decision here, I would still oppose US involvement of any kind.

            • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 year ago

              I’m not confident Venezuela can win this

              Guyana has no military.

              it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire

              So your alternative is to let them win because they might win if Venezuela reacts? Makes no sense.

            • porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 year ago

              this conflict it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire cuz now they can just snuff out Venezuela instead of trying to chip away at them

              I'm not accusing you of this, but this is exactly the line of reasoning that every Trot and left liberal I know used to explain why we all needed to "condemn Hamas". The unstated assumption here is that confronting the empire can only result in a worse outcome for the periphery, and so we must oppose any material resistance by the periphery for their own good.

              The only two conclusions to this line of thinking are:

              • That there is no possibility of things improving for the periphery, and so the best they can hope for is to preserve the status quo indefinitely.
              • That the only effective means of improving the material conditions of the periphery is by waging some kind of purely moral nonviolent struggle through speech and symbolic gestures.

              Both of these are just liberalism.

        • usa_suxxx
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          16 days ago

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    • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      Clearly the US has no interests in the region, that's why they leave VZ alone and let them develop peacefully. /s

        • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          It's not your place to criticize actions of an anti-imperialist nation like VZ because of your speculation on its outcome.

            • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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              1 year ago

              Support the victims of US imperialism, and trust that they know what they're doing? I realize that's very difficult for you to do.

                • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  I've been owned, a pro-US stooge used the smug emoji in defense of the most powerful and evil empire in world history, and depict their victims as smug.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          I don’t think the US is winning this one. America trains for the wars it’s GOING to fight, not the ones it didn’t expect. Very few of the relatively small number of US troops have jungle training, all our equipment weights 200 tons so it’s not gonna be useful there, we already didn’t win Vietnam. That’s all before you add on the stress of Ukraine and Israel. I don’t see it happening.