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  • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Yes it is very good. He describes the incentives for a feudal prince. Not sure why he is considered to be some kind of evil philosopher.

    • Slowpoke [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Because it makes people feel funny to hear what it takes to be in power. It hurts their wittle feewings. A lib once said to me, "If the world is going to be like that, then I don't want to live in it," as if that made a difference.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Its great how instead of the natural conclusion of "If the world is going to be like that, I want to change it" the conclusion is "If the world is going to be like that, I will pretend I do not see it and then the world wont be like that".

        • Slowpoke [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Feels before reals.

          I used to not understand just how important people's feelings were to them. They're super important. More important than anything in the world. Certainly more important than stupid reality.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I heard a dude say Machiavello was one of the first materialist or something like that, a big dipshit tho

  • bruh [any]
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    3 years ago

    Don't let the label leftist stop you from reading theory deemed not leftist. Even people like Carl Schmitt are still relevant.

  • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If you have the bandwidth, there's plenty of benefit to consuming counter points of view even if only to have a better understanding of what you stand against. I would recommend against reading someone like Ben Shapiro because, awful writing aside, conservative pundits are mainly grifters who make a living selling snake oil to 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires'. Someone like Peter Thiel will give you a much clearer insight into what the capitalist class actually thinks.

    Also, concerning the prince: while it's not really a "leftist" text it's always worth mentioning that there's an interesting debate among historians regarding it's purpose/role from Machiavelli and whether not his one book about "how to be a sith Lord for dummies" was actually written to be subversive.

  • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I remember listening to it back on Librivox. I think it's actually a very good context for understanding both the Renaissance and the age of Exploration(=genocide and colonialism).

  • carbohydra [des/pair]
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    3 years ago

    It's pretty fun and has a lot of unexpected stuff. I didn't learn much from it. A renaissance prince might have more use for the specific advice in it.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I was supposed tonread it for class once. I didnt but I got a B on the paper anyway. So that means there is 30% value in reading it. So it is better than a cheesy men's adventure novel I suppose

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    No more or less than a person who doesn't identify with leftism, as with anything