• SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Isn't the whole point of heaven supposed to be a utopia that encourages you to be a good person on earth to guarantee your spot? If heaven is just more work, what incentive do I have to better myself here on earth?

    • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      If heaven is real capitalists sure as shit ain't fucking going to it

      As someone who was raised Catholic I always found it fucking insane that the most ghoulish, demented people always insist that they're going to be the ones who are saved, you've literally spent your ENTIRE life doing the opposite of what Jesus would have done

      sometimes I still have the religious ideas in the back of my head and I legit sometimes feel like if there is a God, then climate change and coronavirus are genuinely divine punishment for the transgressions of the ruling class since no amount of money is going to spare them from the former and the latter can actually fuck them up if it gets bad enough

      • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Jesus: Rich people don't go to heaven lol

        Rich Christians: 100 page essay on how roman city walls were called needles or some dumb shit and that means that rich people definitely all go to heaven

        • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          There is actually a biblical scholarly debate over the "camel through the eye of a needle" passage. Whether it means that it refers to a literal camel or a very thick rope for ships that had a very similar Hebrew word to the word for "camel". But it's mostly a joke debate, because whether it's either one, it still means the same thing: It's impossible.

      • ancom20 [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        maybe late stage capitalism (the environmental/health conditions we now live in) is a sign the ruling class lost the "mandate of heaven"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Heaven

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      3 years ago

      exactly. The outcome is suffering no matter what, that's worse than no afterlife at all.

      • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I'd love to see rich folks get interviewed for heaven only to get the same runaround bullshit interviewers do.