• artangels [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    why do a lot of vague leftists go on tucker? is he the only booking they can get?

      • chmos [any]
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        4 years ago

        My favorite guest to do that was that one Dutch historian who was first congratulated for trolling billionaires, before proceeding to troll Tucker into a triggered rant which ended up not being aired.

      • artangels [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I think it’s reasonable. Sharing your views and pushing back on Tucker Carlsons show is better than not being able to do that on any MSM outlet.

      • LamontCranston [any]
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        4 years ago

        What I see in a lot of (online) leftists these days is a complete aversion to any personality or media that even shows a bit of reactionary take, as if people are irredeemable if they are not 100% on-board with your leftist take (see Joe Rogan for reference). To me, this is a sign of low self-esteem after years of being fractured.

        Also if you disagree with me on any topic you're a liberal electoralist. LOOK AT HOW MUCH MORE RADICAL I AM EVERYONE.

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        4 years ago

        I don't want Dore to represent the Left. lol.

        The dude is barely a social democrat. Why are people defending him?

    • Perplexiglass [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I think there's a vas deferens between platforming a Nazi versus simply appearing on their show and making a passionate oeuvre for your cause while delegitimizing their arguments. I vote Team Chaos.

    • Nakoichi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Horseshoe theory.

      The right does it (invites people like Dore on) to perpetuate that idea to normalize their own genocidal beliefs.

      lol at people downvoting I'm not blaming anyone for exploiting these platforms I am explaining why they let people like Dore or other leftists on in the first place. Chill the fuck out people.

      • LamontCranston [any]
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        4 years ago

        Are they trying for a "here's a leftist saying the left has gone too far!" ? The first thing if that is the case is to affirm that the Democrats are not left.

        • Nakoichi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          By "that idea" I meant horseshoe theory and that they invite leftists on to try to normalize their own ideology. I am not saying it is bad for people to exploit those platforms, just explaining their motivation for including actual leftists on their platform.

          Horseshoe theory is obviously bullshit.

          • LamontCranston [any]
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            4 years ago

            How does having someone leftwing on validate their own ideas? If the person competent they'll make a good argument. Or get shouted down like Bregman.

            • Nakoichi [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              It doesn't but it signals to liberals that the far left is similar. It's disingenuous scare tactics. Whether it is effective or not that's the logic at play.

              • LamontCranston [any]
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                4 years ago

                It doesn’t but it signals to liberals that the far left is similar.

                Not if the don't act rabid like Carlson.

                And they're booking these people to signal to liberals? Seems kinda 4D chess :\

                • Nakoichi [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  What I mean is that they are booking these people that criticize liberals to their network, that liberals inherently write off as propaganda in an effort to deflate their legitimacy.

                  I think people are misunderstanding me, see my above edit.

                  • LamontCranston [any]
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                    4 years ago

                    they are booking these people that criticize liberals to their network

                    I think this is the purpose, "look what the leftist says about his liberal cohorts!"