• communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Not understanding that a dictatorship of the Proletariat is not a literal dictatorship, and using Anarchist theory when you're literally not an anarchist to bad faith left punch as a supposed "DemSoc..." that is absolutely ideological illiteracy. Total galaxy brain shit.

    Literally, the idea behind Democratic Socialism is that you can peacefully transition to a DotP without a revolution. Opposing is at odds with your literal mission goal. And so are anarchists. That's not anti left unity, that's the just the fucking definitions. You're not trying to abolish the state as a DemSoc, you're trying to peacefully take it over. That's just what that term means.

    The left does uselessly squabble a lot, but it has just as many clout chasing, opportunist fucking fools looking to leverage discontent into a clique or a job or some other form of money and fame.

    That is bad enough on its own without also being completely idiotic and at odds with itself.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Not understanding that a dictatorship of the Proletariat is not a literal dictatorship

      In theory it's not. The anarchist critique is that in practice it is, or at least can be. This is not a new criticism. You can disagree with that anarchist criticism, but it's a response to the concept of "dictatorship of the proletariat," not a misunderstanding of it.

      • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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        No, it's only the former. "States are good, sometimes" is the Marxist take. Bakunin is arguing here that it is impossible to create a worker's state, not that it's unlikely.

        And NJR is using that as a bad faith critique to say that they actually did mean a literal dictatorship, can't mean anything else, and is just left punching and red scaring at, frankly, like at a liberal's level. That you can't even include Marx in your analysis because he's scary and violent and power hungry.

        As if smashing the fucking state, the position of an actual anarchist, isn't going to require a violent, revolutionary dictatorship. Conveniently, he leaves that part out.

        He's jumping back and forth between DemSoc ideology and methods and anarchist critique, which are fundamentally incompatible.