Also I don't want to make trans people feel bad for knowing I've obviously clocked them as trans but they don't pass/look androgynous when they may not want to so I have to use they
But yea, I always just end up using they and hope nobody gets hurt
There are ways to do it without being overt, like saying "they're pretty cool" or "they seem nice" or whatever. It's easier when taking to someone else though, but using pronouns is always something you do with other people anyways.
I get that, but you can always walk that back easier there and not feel like you're actually hurting someone. Plus anyone who is hyper masculine and cis, will usually be obvious enough that you don't have to use non-binary pronouns.
They are one of the most aggressively gender presenting groups around.
Counterpoint: Insecure cis men
Also I don't want to make trans people feel bad for knowing I've obviously clocked them as trans but they don't pass/look androgynous when they may not want to so I have to use they
But yea, I always just end up using they and hope nobody gets hurt
There are ways to do it without being overt, like saying "they're pretty cool" or "they seem nice" or whatever. It's easier when taking to someone else though, but using pronouns is always something you do with other people anyways.
Counter-Counterpoint: who cares?
dudes like fighting and americans like shooting
I get that, but you can always walk that back easier there and not feel like you're actually hurting someone. Plus anyone who is hyper masculine and cis, will usually be obvious enough that you don't have to use non-binary pronouns.
They are one of the most aggressively gender presenting groups around.