They can't openly admit it, but i'm fairly certain they find our takes a lot more terrifying than the nazi shit because deep down inside, they're afraid that we're right.
Some people probably see real conspiracy theories as more insidious because they're "crafted" to undermine the US (the force of good in the world!) whereas right-wing conspiracy theories are obviously false and dumb and hardly even believed by their proponents, and obviously don't hurt western power (the force of good in the world!).
I took a class on the Holocaust in high school and never learned any of that. Lol damn CRT education.
Also I’m pretty sure there’s nothing about it at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum either…
Uh, heh, sorry, but if the US actually did something that bad I would have heard about it from John Oliver, so...
It's absolutely ridiculous that I can say "the private sector is not a good alternative to government because they would enslave us given the chance" and people would pee-shaw at me, labeling me a conspiracy theorist.
Yet will enthusatically tell me on how DA JOOZ want to take over the world and force white people to leave brown people alone (THE HORROR!).
people would pee-shaw at me, labeling me a conspiracy theorist.
Nevermind the fact that Nestle does literally that in other countries, and that's just the high-profile example!
Mayo-Americans don't give a shit because like 90% of that was done to (:us-foreign-policy:) people on the Not Ok spectrum
Minorities are only inclined to believe you or at least treat you with some credulity based on how negative their interactions have been with the USA in general. I feel like if you got to the point where you were comfortable enough to talk to some dudes in the projects about this they would be like "oh yeah that makes sense". Unfortunately some people are so brainwashed they still cling to this idea of the USA being some bastion of democracy and freedom, so they can see people that look like them and have the same heritage in literal concentration camps and be like "ah, makes sense. Not my problem!".
Point of order, his daughter wasn't killed by drone, she was shot in the neck by a Navy Seal at close range
As always, God Damn America
I feel like if you got to the point where you were comfortable enough to talk to some dudes in the projects about this they would be like “oh yeah that makes sense”
I was having a smoke on a break and had a homeless dude ask me if I knew that our toilet paper was from a Koch funded company and I was like yeah that's not surprising made some comments about supply chains all blending together and my bosses just doing what's 'cost effective'. Then he asked if we had a union, I asked him if he wanted me to buy him something from the deli but he declined and just said he'd hit up our yuppie customers and then go to McDonalds across the street.
:rat-salute: Based homeless guy
Yeah, I restrain myself to not become a fucking crank when trying to interact with random people.
and the libs who roll their eyes at atrocities get to pretend like they're the reasonable ones.
This reminds me that I need to request the military records of a deceased relative to see whether they were involved in certain atrocities...
I saw the military records from one of my relatives from WW1, and he was serving in France and spent most of the war in hospital with VD.
If you know their names, you can request their records from whatever branch they served in.
This got me wondering if anyone had compiled a list of US atrocities. Not that such a list could ever be comprehensive, but you know, at least a greatest hits sort of list. I know there was that copypasta going around for a while with the names of a bunch of US atrocities, but I wanted something more "scholarly" to be able to send to the very kind of people OP is describing in the title.
After a very quick search I found this one: https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md which seems like just the kind of thing I was looking for,
And this one: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html For just some of the CIA-specific evils. Though I don't know anything about the authors or their motivations, the lists themselves seem pretty good at first glance.
If anyone else still reading this thread has others, I'd wouldn't mind if you shared.
I'm surprised that there's a list of US war crimes page on wikipedia. and even more shocked that the talk page isnt a complete cesspool
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
Yeah, I should have included that link too, but didn't because it was limited to "war time" atrocities and didn't include stuff like US-perpetrated coups in South America, etc. etc.. But for the specific purposes I was asking about, sending info to disbelieving libs, wikipedia seems like it should make for an excellent source. And damn, that really is shocking that the talk page isn't more infested.
The book "Killing Hope" by William Blum is really good as a history of US foreign interventions since WW2.
