sure Caocao and his upvoters meant well but yeah. this is always the issue with mental states though: we all tend to project our own onto other people, because we've never experienced how it feels to be wired any other way than the way we're wired
also the "ADHD is made up" thing is so persistent partly because the motive checks out, like I understand why people find it persuasive. "Kid fidgets in class so drug 'em until they sit still" has the same shape as a lot of school abuse stories we hear.
Bingo. The take is very "feels" based because if they bothered looking into the topic, they'd believe both the people affected by it and the mountains of research into it.
A friend of mine was actually part of this information cause he needed a brain scan and has ADHD so they got him to consent to provide data. There are like, actual brain imaging differences.
yeah cause psychiatry is doing such a great job combatting depression, anxiety, etc.
“doctors exist and yet cancer still exists, curious”
Psychiatry + psychology is saving lives and keeps improving. It has flaws like all healthcare within capitalism.
These are real phenomena but cannot be addressed at the individual level. Chemical imbalance in the brain is a symptom, not a cause
It’s both. Even in a communist society, you would still have chemical imbalances, depression, neuro-divergence, schizophrenia, etc. The system would just be accommodating and not adding more stress.
Thinking capitalism is the cause of all mental health issues is utopic and not based in reality. It willfully ignores science in favor of ideology that is outdated and deleuzional (pun intended).
Close. It's true in the wild ADHD would not be maladaptive. It does however describe a specfic subset of neuroanatomical and functional features. As that is the case people don't get addicted to speed. That is actually normal people's relationship with caffine. People with most types of adhd have low dopamine levels. So very small doeses of stimulants are given to promote dopamine. If you want to picture it, it is actually more akin to changing the tuning of a car. ADHD actually represents a low idle speed. Patients with adhd have low dopamine, so they are basically waiting for something big to happen to they can respond to it. In the wild that was pretty common. Stimulants turn up the idle speed on the brain and convince it than regular tasks are worth doing.
If you are instrested, I can look up the proper pathophysiology of the dosal regulator clusters of the bain and the proper names for the systems involved. I can't remember off the top of my head right now.
ADHD infact incrased the odds of addictions. There is a bunch of xlinical data related to that. Some of it crosses over but some specifcially for that constalation of symptoms
Fucking thank you. This shit isn't some pharma plot to push meth. There were issues with over-prescribing like 20 years ago and it was largely dealt with. Mental healthcare is flawed within capitalism because fucking everything is flawed under capitalism.
edit: all mental illnesses are made up. There is no such thing as “neurotypical.” Psychiatry is modern-day alchemy. Read capitalism and schizophrenia by deleuze
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Yeah, this is ableist as fuck. ADHD is not made up.
sure Caocao and his upvoters meant well but yeah. this is always the issue with mental states though: we all tend to project our own onto other people, because we've never experienced how it feels to be wired any other way than the way we're wired
also the "ADHD is made up" thing is so persistent partly because the motive checks out, like I understand why people find it persuasive. "Kid fidgets in class so drug 'em until they sit still" has the same shape as a lot of school abuse stories we hear.
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Bingo. The take is very "feels" based because if they bothered looking into the topic, they'd believe both the people affected by it and the mountains of research into it.
A friend of mine was actually part of this information cause he needed a brain scan and has ADHD so they got him to consent to provide data. There are like, actual brain imaging differences.
Yeah. Being neurodivergent is a pain in the ass in a society that is built to squeak effencies out of the median brain chemistry.
You learn to deal with it in different ways, but everyone is very much wired differently along a spectrum.
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"oh hey, being a chode got a response."
So you're what, admitting to intentionally trolling?
germ theory = ideology. Read capitalism and the four humours by deleuze.
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“doctors exist and yet cancer still exists, curious”
Psychiatry + psychology is saving lives and keeps improving. It has flaws like all healthcare within capitalism.
It’s both. Even in a communist society, you would still have chemical imbalances, depression, neuro-divergence, schizophrenia, etc. The system would just be accommodating and not adding more stress.
Thinking capitalism is the cause of all mental health issues is utopic and not based in reality. It willfully ignores science in favor of ideology that is outdated and deleuzional (pun intended).
alright, I see you're doubling down on this without education
let me ask you something. where do you think schizophrenia comes from? can anyone develop schizophrenia if they have a bad day?
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My ADHD is not made up fuck off.
Love when dudes are so obsessed with owning the libs that they think pop psychology means psychology is fake.
Imagine watching doctor oz and deciding that germs weren’t real lol
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Close. It's true in the wild ADHD would not be maladaptive. It does however describe a specfic subset of neuroanatomical and functional features. As that is the case people don't get addicted to speed. That is actually normal people's relationship with caffine. People with most types of adhd have low dopamine levels. So very small doeses of stimulants are given to promote dopamine. If you want to picture it, it is actually more akin to changing the tuning of a car. ADHD actually represents a low idle speed. Patients with adhd have low dopamine, so they are basically waiting for something big to happen to they can respond to it. In the wild that was pretty common. Stimulants turn up the idle speed on the brain and convince it than regular tasks are worth doing.
If you are instrested, I can look up the proper pathophysiology of the dosal regulator clusters of the bain and the proper names for the systems involved. I can't remember off the top of my head right now.
Agree, but will add that ADHD does not make you remotely immune to abusing/becoming addicted to speed. I am imperical proof.
ADHD infact incrased the odds of addictions. There is a bunch of xlinical data related to that. Some of it crosses over but some specifcially for that constalation of symptoms
Fucking thank you. This shit isn't some pharma plot to push meth. There were issues with over-prescribing like 20 years ago and it was largely dealt with. Mental healthcare is flawed within capitalism because fucking everything is flawed under capitalism.
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I want to say "deleuze and his consequences" but I dont know shit about the guy but I'm pretty sure that would be a correct statement.
If his take is that capitalism causes neurodivergence, then he's just the ableist version of the "homosexuality is bourgeoisie decadence" take.
Haven't bothered reading and don't think I will anytime soon based on who recommended him. Time better spent readint other things.
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