Super underlooked DS9 character. Basically saved from being a one-off cause they needed an extra person form the episode that Jadzia's old hosts occupied her friends bodies for fun. Then she was kind of just around and working at the bar. Once her relationship with Rom got going she really comes into her own , they're adorable together. Among all the spies and terrorists in the show she's just a straight shooter and a genuinely nice person. Leeta has her shit together. Chase Masterson also advocated for worker ownership of the means of production in an interview.
Chase Masterson also advocated for worker ownership of the means of production in an interview.
Based.
It was the 7th Rule Podcast which is super dope. Jake Sisco and friend go through each DS9 episode and reminisce as well as review the show and they get lots of cast and crew members as well as track down the freelancers who wrote the first draft of some scripts and stuff. She actually went off for a while about workers rights.
Edit: Nana Visitor also retweets Will Ngyuen (The Star Trek Communist) dude goes out in a Starfleet uniform and hands out pamphlets. Wallace Shawn is a Marxist. Avery Brooks is definitely left of most. Alexander Siddig has better middle East takes than many being Sudanese. DS9 is generally super fucking based
Dude actually wrote essays about it! And a one man play! He's the real deal!
https://friend-of-the-people.com/2020/12/03/inconceivably-socialist/
Oh I didn't mean like you were doubting me. I was just being excited about his credentials. A sorta famous person saying they're a Marxist is one thing, having writing and a play to back it up is fucking :rommunism:
Are you asking about his view on authority or is that all quote? I can't tell.
Just added this podcast to my rotation! Had no idea Wallace Shawn was in Trek, what a delight. Love how much deep DS9 / Trek lore you have.
:rommunism:
Other fun Ferengi fact! When they were doing Ferengi heavy episodes the actors that played them or would usually be involved would all go to Armin Shimmerman's house and do rehearsals on their own time. There's an interview with him and the showrunner who was beside himself with gratitude saying "I couldn't ask you to do that, I wouldn't ask you to do that.". For the most part (Marc Alaimo is a lot closer to Dukat IRL than comfortable and creeped out Nana Visitor from what I can tell) the cast got along super well. Avery Brooks basically tool Cirroc Lofton who played Jake as his other son. He'd go to basketball games and stuff with Avery and his family and he'd just call them all his kids and I guess they're still super close. Avery thought it was important to play a single black father super well, which is beside the point of him being that awesome to Cirroc but it reminded me and I figured it was worth a mention.
All the writers but one at the start of DS9 were Jewish as well and tried as hard as they could to not play into that.
I always love hearing about how close the cast of DS9 was. Best Trek to watch and for the actors too.
Oh, they had her on to discuss Bar Association. That's brilliant.
Edit: Oh God. It was co-hosted by Aaron Eisenberg (Nog) before he died. Heartbreaking.
I'm two seasons into ds9 and when does it get good? My introduction to trek was lower decks
Wow, okay. That's a terrible first Trek. It's 90% super obscure nerd jokes. My advice is actually to watch TNG first. The first two seasons of that are even worse but hold fast, this is a trial. Enjoying awful shit is a huge part of loving Trek. TNG gets super good by then and you'll get the vibes and be familiar with the setting, DS9 kinda assumes you know what's going on a little. From there you could do DS9 but I'd suggest at least watching a best of list from the original series and then the original series movies then DS9.
Lower Decks is a comedic take although does actually get the spirit pretty good and DS9 is somewhat of a deconstruction. If you wanna keep up on DS9 feel free and it's one that you'll just kinda love and not really know when it happened to you. Seasons 5&6 are the peak but it builds. I would suggest my watch order though, you have to put off the best one but part of why it's good is how it uses the space politics set up by the other shows. It's all one long continuity.
Edit: once you've watched all of Trek you're gonna notice so fucking much with Lower Decks. I'm glad a none fan can actually enjoy it though. That was something that worried me where there is sooooo much fanservice and references and nerd Easter egg stuff that I wasn't sure how someone who wasn't a Trekkie would enjoy.
There's guides for which episodes of TNG and DS9 are "must see", and which to skip. I'd recommend watching the most pared-down option for TNG through S5, then the must-see episodes of DS9 seasons 1 and 2, then all of DS9 starting with season 3.
If you're coming from LD, consider TNG a show about the bridge crew of the most prestigious but also stuffiest ship in Starfleet, played completely straight, and DS9 as a less stuffy bridge crew assigned to an absolute backwater civilian station that suddenly becomes incredibly strategically important, but they don't assign it a new bridge crew, and the weird and/or sleazy alien civilians are still there to cause hijinks.
S3 is where the show starts ramping up in quality and S4 is already above 2/3 ratio of good or better espisodes.
I would agree with the suggestion that it is probably better to either go back to start with TNG(and I'd start with S3 straight away and then come back for the good S1-2 episodes only you can find lists on google) or watch alongside.
There is a lot of nostalgia already in DS9, when certain characters appear on the respective sister show it only really hits already existing fans, originally this was done for cross promotion but there is merit in it even if you disregard the ulterior motive.
Specifically the two characters that moved over, their character growth depends on the pre-existing knowledge of the previous show, specially for Worf.
There are also certain scenes and episodes during the war arc that could be considered nostalgia bait. You could keep going but i feel you'll miss out on that part of the experience.
Classic trek imo works so well because there is a shared consistency between the shows. You imagine that the characters in Voyager would fit perfectly on DS9 or TNG and vice-versa and it makes it all seem like this huge family.
