Stuff like "stupid, idiot, moron, dumb," you know the ones. If you’re insulting someone for their shitty garbage beliefs and all you can manage to come up with is ways to insult their intelligence, appearance, or other aspect about them that has nothing to do with their cruelty and shittyness, you should maybe reevaluate.

Just saw a thread on here where a user was stubbornly refusing to adjust their language when another user politely pointed out that it was harmful to our comrades as well, and the person refusing was massively upvoted and the comrade trying to explain why it was harmful was downvoted. Thought we were better than that

I'm not calling anyone out, just wanted to make a post explaining my feelings on it and that when stuff like that happens (not the intelligence based insults, I know its hard to switch, but getting insulted for asking people to avoid them) it hurts and makes me feel less welcome here </3

Using words like “You’re being ignorant” or “That’s a cruel belief” is actually more effective than just going “lmao idiot”.

If those are the words you actually mean to convey I'd say use them instead :)

Edit: if the reception this post got isn't a good proof that this is something this community needs to grapple with, I don't know what is.

  • RedDawn [he/him]
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    No, I don’t. I don’t think that using the word “stupid” is discriminatory or furthering systems of oppression.

    ”it’s not just about the slur”

    It’s not about any slur because the word “stupid” is not a slur.

    • Civility [none/use name]
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      This is fundamentally, to me, about from each to each.

      Just because people are less able does not mean they should have less

      • RedDawn [he/him]
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        Never said that anybody should “have less” than anybody else.

          • RedDawn [he/him]
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            Never said they should, never have shamed anybody for being less able

            • Civility [none/use name]
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              Insults based on intelligence are derogatory terms for people who are less able.

                • Civility [none/use name]
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                  Are you saying "idiot" isn't derogatory or doesn't refer to someone who is less able?

                  Or that being less intelligent isn't a form of being less able?

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                    Less able to what? You keep describing people as “less intelligent” which is literally just the same thing as stupid. In fact I find your use of the words “less intelligent” in all these comments extremely hurtful because less intelligent people like myself are discriminated against. I insist that you stop saying those hurtful words and apologize to me.

    • Civility [none/use name]
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      "Stupid" is a word used to shame and discriminate against people for something about them that is inborn and often can't be changed to a significant extent. It shames other people who maybe don't match the definition by claiming they do. It's absolutely a slur.