How have people organised things that can be done immediately to address public transportation & help force through high quality state-run infrastructure?

seems to me bikers have been able to organise bike lanes and such but all that required comparatively little effort.

how do communists make a train happen without doing electoralism? can dual 'transit power' be built? are there examples?

  • Nakoichi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is one of the points to which I have to give the tankies credit. Large scale infrastructure projects requiring broad based standardization really need some sort of inherent central planning.

    In the US that ain't happening with our current form of government.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      good transit policy is popular idk how re: post but if we can slap a 'commies did that' sticker on a subway or good busline its a ticket to broader support

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      3 years ago

      I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the automobile industry would have you disappeared on some shit if you actually managed to get something even close to off the ground

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      i've heard of them but what do they do? what's the organisational praxis? have they been affiliated with left parties ever?

      i am bombarding you with questions but i'm just curious and there isn't too much info i can dig up. feel free to not follow up lol

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        From what I've seen they essentially work in and with transit unions which helps bargaining power for drivers and their demands can also reflect passenger's needs. It's also a bunch of cranks having meetings and being on the ass of the local transit board who their job requires them to please to an extent. The rest that can be done with it is libshit but voting blocs for transportation candidates that are good and stuff is also done. Without a People's Party and People's Army the workers have little

        • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          work in and with transit unions

          based? maybe they could get a little syndicalist with it if they had radical membership?

          Without a People’s Party and People’s Army the workers have little

          :juche-tears:

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Most places don't have one in the first place but working with an org to start one shouldn't be hard. It's pretty low stakes/red tape. Bus riders don't really have any loops to jump through if they want to organize. Consoomer rights being cracked down on would never be a good look

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Re: community transit power this can be done as communal effort :soviet-hmm:

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      so a party or neighborhood buys a van and starts driving it around a route?

      if a city doesnt crack down on it for being an unlicensed taxi or sumthn i could see it

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Local punks have done similar. Bands with tour vans raising money for stuff by doing Crazy Taxi services. Usually just gets around by word of mouth

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah. Of course that experiment was exactly capitalist exploitation after 90s, but I don’t see why it couldn’t be a coop (hypothetically).

        In reality you’ll probably need some mass-transportation licenses, which somehow don’t apply to uber

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      wikipedia's examples were a lot of liberalism

      but if libs can take over space and do urban retrofitting theres no reason we cant with a mind toward permanence instead of corporate sponsorship and temporary arrangements.

      i cant find what a renegade bus lane is.